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Chad Luebker

Muck Solution for lake property owners

#688921 - 07/02/08 04:21 PM

The Aqua Blaster - www.weedersdigest.com

The wife and I are looking into possible buying an aqua blaster to help remove some muck and silt by our beach. The odds might be slim but I am wondering if anyone owns or has used one of these before or if they know of anyone who has. To get more info or see what they look like go to weedersdigest.com and click on Lake and pond weed tools(I could not figure out how to post the pic). If anyone has any information at all regarding this product please let us know. Thanks.

Chad


Farmboy1

Re: Muck Solution for lake property owners

#688929 - 07/02/08 04:48 PM

My FIL has one. Very worthless IMHO. It works good, if simply moving water is what you are after, but it clogs up with weeds about every 10 minutes. It will move small quantities of muck, but this will silt back in in a day or so.

It may work well if there are not any loose weeds in the area, but then why use it? In their video it worked great, but there was no reason to use it there

I would also be very hesitant to use anything without DNR approval. They do not look very kindly on changing the lake structure.

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BIRDDOG

Re: Muck Solution for lake property owners

#688986 - 07/02/08 09:35 PM

To many lakeshore owners changing the structure of the lake, leave it be...Get rid of the muck/silt, it'll come right back again anyway. That bottom structure is great spawning habitat for panfish along with other species.

Every lake shore owner removes the weeds, muck and silt from their shoreline it'll change the entire make up of the lake. One neighbor catches you doing it, the next thing you know...not to mention in many cases it's illegal.

BIRDDOG

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BZZSAW

Re: Muck Solution for lake property owners

#689082 - 07/03/08 08:34 AM

Our shoreline has a layer of muck on top of sand underneath. We just live with it. A couple times a summer we use a weed rake to cut the weeds around the dock so we can swim about 15 feet into deeper water. Looking at the Aqua Buster product, couldn't you get about the same results by tying up the boat to something stationary and giving her the beans and letting the prop wash blow out the muck?

Chad Luebker

Re: Muck Solution for lake property owners

#689091 - 07/03/08 08:56 AM

Hello -

Thanks for everyones input.
Yeah the boat might do the same thing but you have to be deep enough for the motor which can be a problem.

Birddog - I understand what you are saying to a certain point. But when the weeds are SO thick you can barely get your boat out I am sorry I am going to remove some weeds. Too many weeds can actually remove the oxygen from the water especially when they die off. I am fine with the neighbors catching me because they are complaining about the weeds being bad also. I think the DNR needs to step up and start controlling some of the lakes. I believe they did a big experiment on Indian Lake by Monticello and it was a HUGE success. I will agree weeds are great for fishing but they can be overkill.

Last summer we put some sand down to make a little beach and some washed in the water, guess where all the sunfish made there beds? Completely all where the sand washed in. The bottom structure was changed in that one little area and they still spawned and preferred the sand over any other area around our lake shore.

Anyways, not trying to start any arguements but for property owners paying the taxes for lakeshore we should be able to make a little pathway to get a boat in and out and make a little swimming area. I want to protect the lakes fishing and quality but it does get to a point where it seems like the DNR owns your land.


Walleyebuster

Re: Muck Solution for lake property owners

#689119 - 07/03/08 09:54 AM

I see both sides. I'm big in to the outdoors and somewhat in to conservation but love development and beautiful lake lots and homes. I think Ted said it best once. The animals are on the planet for us to eat them. The same can be applied to lakeshore, in a way.

Side note: Who cares if some reeds and weeds are removed, only Bass live there anyways!! Eeeasy, that was a joke.

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Chad Luebker

Re: Muck Solution for lake property owners

#689145 - 07/03/08 11:10 AM

Good one Walleyebuster. Living in MN and fishing bass a lot I get picked ona lot I am a huge bass fisherman and still don't mind getting rid of the weeds. Heck the whole other shoreline is full of weeds. Whole shoreline is not even developed. Thanks for your response Walleyebuster.

chomps

Re: Muck Solution for lake property owners

#689158 - 07/03/08 11:49 AM

you can have your water sprayed for weeds, but you need a DNR permitt and a bonded company has to do the work. I'd suggest spraying the side of the dock you run your boat on and leave the other side for fish habitat. A bit of sand is a good idea, just rake up some mud before accidently letting some sand go.

DocFrigo

Re: Muck Solution for lake property owners

#689219 - 07/03/08 02:52 PM

Personally knowing Chad, I really think he is the last person who would want to reduce fish habitat.
When we had a cottage up north when I was young, we did the rake thing to reduce the muck and weeds for a swimming area and to clear out a path for the boat. It is a pain and has to be done regularly, but does work and would be the least environmentally obtrusive v/s spraying(eekk!).
Good luck and get out your rake--your dad said he'd help!

Jeremy


Scott Steil

Re: Muck Solution for lake property owners

#689224 - 07/03/08 03:04 PM

Why not use a Weed Roller? That will take care of the muck and weeds. They are legal with a permit on most lakes. The DNR will not let you do the entire lakeshore but they do work well and will get down to the sand.

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Nothin But Net

Re: Muck Solution for lake property owners

#695204 - 07/27/08 12:27 AM

Dont mean to dis anyone here but some of this info is incorrect. In the bay that I live on, about 5 of my neighbors have these aqua blasters. I use mine specifically FOR fishing habitat and so do many of my neighbors. If we didnt, there would be no spawning taking place because the muck is just to deep. Instead, I have cleared an area where there are now TONS of spawning beds. More fish around our pier than we have EVER seen. I think that is due to the blaster. The other thing I do is point it straight up. This creates an aeration in our bay that is so incredibly effective for improving the water quality and clarity.
Ok this is starting to sound like a commercial for these guys at www.weedersdigest.com but I'm telling you this thing saved fishing around my shore. As far as the weeds clogging? Hasnt EVER happened once - because I never put the protective cage on the back. This thing can spit the weeds out like the Ronco Salad Shooter! Its the best thing I could do for my shore - and my fish! The one thing I am now interested is their new "muck digester pellets". That looks very interesting. Be curious if someone has some scoop on that! Chad - email if you have more questions.


BIRDDOG

Re: Muck Solution for lake property owners

#695206 - 07/27/08 01:28 AM

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Birddog - I understand what you are saying to a certain point. But when the weeds are SO thick you can barely get your boat out I am sorry I am going to remove some weeds. Too many weeds can actually remove the oxygen from the water especially when they die off. I am fine with the neighbors catching me because they are complaining about the weeds being bad also. I think the DNR needs to step up and start controlling some of the lakes. I believe they did a big experiment on Indian Lake by Monticello and it was a HUGE success. I will agree weeds are great for fishing but they can be overkill.





I don't think removing some weeds so you can access the dock is a issue or a little beach. A guy should be able to do that. My concern is those lakeshore owners that clear the entire lakeshore and weeds stretching far out in to the water. As far as all the other neighbors wanting to get rid of them as well, that's what I meant by..."the next thing you know". The next thing you know every property owner on the lake is changing the structure, now everyone has sand beach, no weeds, etc.

Maybe the best option is to contact the DNR, get the proper permit and see if you can come up with a plan to control the weeds. Not irradicate them all together. I'm sure that wasn't your intention anyway.

Some lakeshore owners go WAY beyond what they should. Excavators, backhoes, chainsaws, etc...We have a little bass lake up north with standing timber and reeds, there were no cabins on it till the property owner sold parcels on the end that had a bay. With in a few years there were 4 cabins/homes on the bay, standing/flooded timber was cut down, rip rap lined the shore and reeds were removed for sand beaches. Looked great, lakeshore any property owner would be proud to have! They got nailed with fines, had to remove the riprap and "restore" the lakeshore to prexisting conditions. Tough to do when the timber was cut, excavators pulled stumps, etc...The worst part is all the standing timber that produced bass is now gone and the fish don't use that stretch of shore any longer besides in the spring. It was classic bass ambush structure too! It all started with one of the guys doing it...

Granted, this is the extreme end of the spectrum but people do it.

Good luck.

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Dont mean to dis anyone here but some of this info is incorrect. In the bay that I live on, about 5 of my neighbors have these aqua blasters. I use mine specifically FOR fishing habitat and so do many of my neighbors. If we didnt, there would be no spawning taking place because the muck is just to deep.




I don't think anyone gave incorrect "info". Some are just concerned with the stuff some lakeshore owners pull.

As far as there being no spawing taking place without your weed removal? I don't buy that. Some of the fish may have moved their spawing grounds but I'm sure there was natural reproduction long before you removed the weeds. You simply pulled the fish from a different area over to your side because you now created spawning habitat instead of cover/ambush/feeding area(weeds).

BIRDDOG

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