Briank
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Every once is a while I start looking for something on the net and get distracted, ending up well, who knows where.
Last night I ended up reading some "field staff" blogs at a local newpapers web site...then ended up on a local fishing guides site.
Here's how the web site started out...
The Coast guard has shut down all the guide's that fish the river system's including St.Croix, Mississippi and the Minnesota river. They now demand us to have a Captain license. For now until I have the Captain license I will be guiding on a few lake's, I know pretty well for Walleye, Northern, Crappie and lots of Bass and even nice size Sunnies. I will be taking trip's on these lakes starting now. I have applied for and taking the necessary steps to obtain the license and because the process takes a while all trips will be on lakes that produce some nice fish. So here's the deal.
If your looking for a day of fishing learning nearby water's for the fish that were mentioned above. I can help you with tips and tricks to find fish on lakes.......
Shut down all guides!?? Now demanding???
All the good guides I know have been running legally and are still running.
I guess it just bothers me that this web site makes the CG out to be the bad guy and the guide the victim when the guide clearly knew better.
I guess because it's on the Internet, it doesn't mean it's always true. 
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Briank's Trophy Catfishing and Sturgeon Adventures
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Since I am not a guide, I guess I can see both sides of this coin pretty easily.
The recent actions the CG has been involved in recently are not new as far as requirements go, as I understand it. The CG simply has stepped up its enforcement of existing rules.
What I really am wondering about though, is why during a very iffy economic they decide to pursue this policy while for years they allowed guides to slide under that wire. With money so tight, even the monies that the CG gets in federal budgeting, is this merely a ploy to bolster thier coffers thru fees?
Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to justify or uphold what those without proper licensure have been doing, I am just asking why right now when most people can least afford it. Many of those who have been caught by this upswing in enforcement may have not even been aware of the need for this licensing simply because it has never been addressed so openly.
The reasoning behind the licensing that the CG requires is sound and I agree with it 100%. In the other thread where this got aired out, some even went so far as commenting on making this a requirement for inland waters. Maybe not a bad idea from the standpoint of making the waters we use a little safer, but I think most guides are smart and act accordingly. Those who want to use the rivers mentioned, or the federally regulated waters will have to step up and show that they comply. That's fair since it has been a rule all along.
I mentioned in that other thread that I have not seen any guides acting irresponsibly. Tournament boats, not that's a whole different issue. Maybe the CG should start enforcing special licensing needs for tournament anglers, checking for such starting with pre-fishing and maybe limiting the number of over-all tourneys on each pool of the river and federally governed water bodies.
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Plastics: making better fishermen without bait! Good Fishing Guys!
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John23
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Let me guess, this guy isn't a frequent IDO participant? To me, Brian, your post is pretty much the same as talking someone down behind his back. It took me all of 5 seconds on google to figure out who you are talking about. I've never met or even heard of the guy, but what is your point here? Didn't this debate already take place in a different thread?
I support the coat guard's enforcement, but I don't support this thread. 
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Briank
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So your saying John, that you support guides breaking the law or more correctly, placing the blame on the Coast Guard for them enforcing the law that's been common knowledge?
If the website in question would say "I'm working on becoming a licensed guide, until then my trips will be on lakes in the area". I wouldn't have an issue.
Which was my point and clearly stated this. What you read into it is up to you.
Tom, check the other posts, there's an email ad or at least a phone number directly to the St Paul office. They could answer your question better than my guess.
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Thanks Brian....I got it.
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Plastics: making better fishermen without bait! Good Fishing Guys!
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shale
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BrianK,
From your website it looks like you started your guide service in 2005 and didn't get your captains license until 2007.
If that's the case you guided two years illegally.
Am I correct?
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playing hooky mn
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Well Brian k. You have done a wonderful marketing job for IDO. This is my website which you are referring to and seeing you didn't have the guts to call me on the phone and tell me you had a problem with what I said on my site. I guess I will explain it here. I have wrote you and James and explained it to you with no response from James at all. I have had some calls already from other fishermen and guides who have said to me. Why's he attacking you ? I don't care why. Lets just take a look at some simple facts that even Brian K. can understand. It's true also that you were guiding illegally hmmm. Now he has a big love for the Coast guard or is it what....maybe GREED. You personally don’t effect my business or ever will. Your not even good competition catfish boy. But moving on. Ill try to stick to point. So we know you guided for a few years without one. But lets go over your bonehead statement.
You Said: Every once is a while I start looking for something on the net and get distracted, ending up well, who knows where.
I say : it doesn't take much for you to get distracted.
You Said: Last night I ended up reading some "field staff" blogs at a local newpapers web site...then ended up on a local fishing guides site.
I say: I also did reports as a field reporter for this website put on the team by James. You really should do your homework.
You said: Shut down all guides!?? Now demanding???
I said: I am referring to all the other people that were out there guiding and had to shut down. Yes, we have options still guide for a fine or do as the coast guard says and shut down. I did the right thing and awaiting for the class in Nov. and Im back to work. No big deal.
Now about your statement (Now demanding) it's true statement. If they weren't demanding it we wouldn't have to shut down would we.
you said: All the good guides I know have been running legally and are still running.
I said: Who are you referring to Yourself and another popular guide which I won't say his name. Both to which guided for years on the St. Croix with no Captains lic.
You said: I guess it just bothers me that this web site makes the CG out to be the bad guy and the guide the victim when the guide clearly knew better.
I said: I didn't say anything negative about the coast guard. I like them and respect them that’s why I do comply. If it’s the law I respect it. I am also a correction officer for the state of Minnesota so I don't go out breaking laws.
You said: I guess because it's on the Internet, it doesn't mean it's always true.
I said. This one makes me laugh. You put this garbage on the internet does this make it true? You really should think before you open your pie hole mouth. You should really be proud on how you represent IDO. This is why people leave here and go to Minnesota fishing reports forum. I will be checking legal options today for this site. As for the little yellow dot with the hand on his head that should be you. This is really high school.Grow up
Thanks guys for the support that have called me. Including SHale & John23
Brian
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Theres always time for one more cast !!
Brian AKA (Juice)
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Jesse Krook
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OUCH!!!!!!
So does anyone know the "real" reason the Coast Guard started cracking down or we they just making a sweeping sting getting everyone?
A question for Playing Hooky:
Did you know when you started guiding the Croix that you needed a C.G. license ? and if so why did you wait until this sting to get one ? (not taking sides, just wondering)
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playing hooky mn
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When I started guiding there was no mention of this. As you can see from other's that got their Captains lic a couple of years ago ,they were guiding without also until they were educated by Im sure the coast guard. But to be fair, Brian K and the other popular guide did mention it was coming. They did not say to me, it’s the law check with the Coast Guard and find out. Here's a question for you. If you were guide how would you have known this information its not written or signs posted ? Of coarse there are the two people I mentioned, but what authority are they and they were in class getting there lic. and remember they guided a long time without their captain lic. If it was so clear wouldn't that make them law breakers too. Or maybe just maybe they didn't know either. Im done throwing stones at Brian K. He didn't know better and thought he had something good to write about and he is just showing his age. Bottom line is this. I clearly shut my business down. I'm clearly getting my lic in Nov as they did. If you look at the circumstances this is the same route they took isn't it. Seriously when did Brian k. decide to be the Coast guard police. I know that answer, after he got his captain lic. The Coast guard did the right thing Call guides and make them aware. That's there job so how could I be upset with them. I'm ok with it. Also I should tell you after Brian and his class mate mentioned to me that it is coming. I check it out the best way I thought at the time. I checked with DNR and sheriff dept asked the question to them. Do I need a Captains lic? And both of them said no not that Im aware of. So when the Coast guard called I shut down. I did not get on this board and complain. I did as I was told by the coast guard.
Hope this helps
Brian
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Theres always time for one more cast !!
Brian AKA (Juice)
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My head hurts after reading that.
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Are you sure it was after reading that, or could your head be hurt'n because its 6 oclock in the morning and the Queens played last night? 
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Positive........ It was after reading that.
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"This is why people leave here and go to Minnesota fishing reports forum."
Had to comment on above statement. For the most part I dont believe it. Especially after they get to know the the owner.
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Jesse Krook
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No trying to attack you Hooky but here's a quote directly from your web-site Quote:
The boat is fully insured and equipped with all USCG approved safety equipment
Did you have an actual Coast Guard officer approve your equipment and inspect your boat? and he did not at the time make you aware of this license?
I was on a guide's boat about a month and a half back and he displayed the records of the C.G. inspections of his vessel and his Captains License of recent and years past.
Do you have or display such records?
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Jesse Krook
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and you also state that Quote:
The Coast guard has shut down all the guide's that fish the river system's including St.Croix, Mississippi and the Minnesota river
this being a false statement which seems to be a way to deter people from seeking the guide services of those who have complied with the U.S.C.G.
Once again this is not an attack on Hooky just trying to get the facts
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The Victim
