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Ralph Wiggum

Anchoring Issues

#824108 - 10/05/09 02:54 PM

I feel like an idiot needing some help with this, but I have been having some anchoring issues and am looking for ideas.

I've got a 16' Sylvan Backtroller. Up front, I have a large Water Spike with 3' of heavy chain. In the back, I have a 15' river anchor.

I am not having a problem holding at all. The issue is the front of the boat swaying in windy conditions. The wind will catch it and move it one way, then swing it back the other way. I have tried:

1) just the front anchor down
2) the front anchor down and the rear anchor dropped right below the boat
3) dropping the front anchor with a bunch of excess line, dropping the rear anchor, and then pulling in some of the excess front line so both anchor lines are taut

Option 3 seems to help some, but it's a major pain when fishing alone, and the front still sways around (although not as much).

I'm starting to think it's something in the boat design that makes it prone to do this. Any ideas???

Thanks,
Ryan

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~Ryan


Outdoors4Life

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824114 - 10/05/09 03:15 PM

I do option 3 and the other day we were out nothing would have been better. It was sooooooooo windy I noticed you only had your front anchor out after your first anchoring.

The other reason to have one anchor out a ways from the boat and prevent the big girls from wrapping up.

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Farmboy1

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824116 - 10/05/09 03:17 PM

What is the flow like there? You can set anchors like usual, and if there is enough flow, put down a drift sock. this will pull you with the current and negates the wind.

By yourself it is a huge pain, but better then swinging.

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James HolstAdministrator

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824118 - 10/05/09 03:19 PM

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I feel like an idiot needing some help with this, but I have been having some anchoring issues and am looking for ideas.

I've got a 16' Sylvan Backtroller. Up front, I have a large Water Spike with 3' of heavy chain. In the back, I have a 15' river anchor.

I am not having a problem holding at all. The issue is the front of the boat swaying in windy conditions. The wind will catch it and move it one way, then swing it back the other way. I have tried:

1) just the front anchor down
2) the front anchor down and the rear anchor dropped right below the boat
3) dropping the front anchor with a bunch of excess line, dropping the rear anchor, and then pulling in some of the excess front line so both anchor lines are taut

Option 3 seems to help some, but it's a major pain when fishing alone, and the front still sways around (although not as much).

I'm starting to think it's something in the boat design that makes it prone to do this. Any ideas???

Thanks,
Ryan




Ryan

Does your boat sit real high in the front or does it sit flat?

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rod-man

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824119 - 10/05/09 03:22 PM

get a large snap clip and put it on your bow eye, then clip your line in that after you anchor. It will give you a lower centerd pulling point. That has worked for me in the past when I had a 21ft open bow in heaver winds on winnie.
Just clip the line in it and tie off as you normaly would.
good luck

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mb376

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824121 - 10/05/09 03:24 PM

I would think a properly placed drift sock would probably help alot. I am not a big anchoring fisherman but I am guessing someone here could help with the placement part. I am guessing that positioning the sock so it keeps your front anchor line tight would be the ticket.

Carroll58

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824125 - 10/05/09 03:35 PM

Nice boat Ryan, I have the same. Yes, the Deep V is like a Sail even in a light breeze.

After setting my front anchor to a cleat on the windy side, I use my Back-trolling motor on low to hold a position and cut the sway.


Ralph Wiggum

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824150 - 10/05/09 04:54 PM

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Ryan

Does your boat sit real high in the front or does it sit flat?




The front sits pretty high. I suspect that is part of the problem.

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Ralph Wiggum

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824151 - 10/05/09 04:56 PM

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get a large snap clip and put it on your bow eye, then clip your line in that after you anchor. It will give you a lower centerd pulling point.




Tried that...no luck

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~Ryan


Ralph Wiggum

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824152 - 10/05/09 04:57 PM

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I do option 3 and the other day we were out nothing would have been better. It was sooooooooo windy I noticed you only had your front anchor out after your first anchoring.





Yeah, I was swaying pretty good either way, so I opted for the easier method

It looked like you were swaying a lot less than me. You had a bit more weight in the boat than I did, though.

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~Ryan


Mike W

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824163 - 10/05/09 05:18 PM

A large drift sock off the back may help. If there is not much flow this may not work. I would think a large anchor like a Ricter anchored on a short line may also help with the swaying. It seem like I get less movement of the boat on a shorter rope but then end up with other issues like the water spike being pulled loose. I think a large ricter or navy anchor may hold better on a short rope.

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Happy Birthday B Robinson

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824165 - 10/05/09 05:28 PM

Quote:

get a large snap clip and put it on your bow eye, then clip your line in that after you anchor. It will give you a lower centerd pulling point.




I suggest this to people all the time because I can't believe what an improvement it has made in my anchoring. I put a clip on the bow eye, run my anchor line through it, then tie my anchor line up around a cleat. Having the anchor line at a point closer to the water has made a huge, positive difference for me.

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Brian
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Outdoors4Life

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824210 - 10/05/09 09:13 PM

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It looked like you were swaying a lot less than me. You had a bit more weight in the boat than I did, though.




Ya I had some good weight in there! Your front end did seem to be very high now that it was mentioned. I could see you swaying from a ways away.

As for a wind sock there is it is pretty much lake with such a slow flow I doubt it would work well enough.

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James HolstAdministrator

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824221 - 10/05/09 10:07 PM

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Ryan

Does your boat sit real high in the front or does it sit flat?




The front sits pretty high. I suspect that is part of the problem.




From my experience... that is the problem. Boats the sit real high in the bow wander all over heck when at anchor. If you figure out how to fix that problem, you let us all know the fix as I've never been able to figure it out.

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IDA Guides Guide Service
Ph. 507-271-0362



Ralph Wiggum

Re: Anchoring Issues

#824258 - 10/06/09 07:17 AM

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From my experience... that is the problem. Boats the sit real high in the bow wander all over heck when at anchor. If you figure out how to fix that problem, you let us all know the fix as I've never been able to figure it out.






That was not the answer I was looking for!

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~Ryan


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