LenH
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Ted takes over the packers. Follow the list.
1. Lets our two starting guards go in free agency
2. Hires McCarthy over Marriucci
3. Does not get Moss in trade for a lousy 4th round pick
(Two times)
4. Drafts Harrell (currently on IR)
5. Drafts Hawk (bench warmer)
6. Have been millions under salary cap since his arrival
7. Has NOT signed any big name free agents
8. Shove a Pro Bowl Caliber QB out the door.
9. Have an excellent QB now but an AWFUL Offensive Line
10. Has not drafted a single Offensive Lineman in first round
Can we please put TT on waivers now?
Edited by LenH (11/02/09 09:38 AM)
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Amen, brother.
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if Murphy isn't taking a LONG look at those moves he's not doing a good job either. with the NFC North title chances gone there will less people attending those games and it will show on the bottom line. yesterday was embarrassing to say the least.
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Look at it this way...easier for you guys to get tickets. 
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We need to do something!!
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Something to CHEW ON, but suppose Moss would have ended up in Green Bay??? Moss arguably was a petty big stud for the Vikes, and then like Favre became disgruntled with the Vikes team/management. Sometimes competitive players that really care about winning get a bit peeved when management makes poor choices that negatively effect the teams ability to compete. Can you blame them?? Now I understand no circumstances are exactly the same, but I think I'd have a hard time BOOING Randy Moss if he became a Green Bay Packer. I think I'd realize it is a business 1st, entertainment 2nd, and a game 3rd. If one gets jilted from from the front office, or feels his team hasn't made the necessary moves to WIN, and leaves I have a tough time faulting that person. Now on the otherhand considering football players are human beings I think it is highly likely there is some spite towards the FRONT OFFICE of the Packers by #4. Too bad sooooooo Many people can't read between the lines on that one. Nope it's not a dis to previous teams, memories or the fans. It is a bone to pick with what #4 deemed poor handling of a hall of fame QB who put Wisconsin football in National Headlines for 15 plus years. Personally I believe I'd error on the side of caution, or my Hall Of Fame QB, and also listen to him if he wants to throw the ball to Randy Moss. Now with that said I'm glad the Green and Gold didn't keep #4 or Moss, because I shiver even thinking about that lethal connection, and how they would tear up our secondary. Yep Rodgers and Driver are good, but Favre and Moss!! Really?? And TT DIDN'T WANT HIM?? YIKES!! 
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would you want to return to a GM that basically
says No to you every time you open your mouth?
He saw the handwriting on the wall.
Look at our Defensive Backs. Couple of the best in the league.
Believe one is 11 year vet and other 13.
Will TT go there as pick in draft and ignore Oline?
I bet he sits on his hands and doesn't draft either or gets some old washed up reject.
In 5 years you will see the ESPN top 10
You Can't Blame so and so.
Top one will say.
Can't Blame Favre for leaving packers look at what this moron Thompson did to support him.
Favre will be in the Hall Of Fame some day and Thompson the Hall Of Shame.
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Very well put.
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What's not to like about TT. I mean he has sold a bazillion Vikings tickets. What's wrong with that?
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Thompson is already in the hall of shame, and he can take his thumb sucking mikey with him too!
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1. Good point
2. Really? Marriucci? Please. At least Chilly ‘didn’t get on that plane’.
3. Nobody really wanted Moss, remember?
4. Good point
5. Good point
6. Good point
7. Woodson
8. He retired, and then wanted back in. Also, see #9
9. Good point
10. How many great O linemen have been available when the Pack drafted? I don’t know, but I am assuming you know who they have passed up. Plus, don’t you think fixing the D should have been a priority?
I already put on the other post the good things he has done. You guys are right. Maybe we should bring Sherman back.
The packers would not have been any better the last year or this year with Favre because the QB position is not the problem (I would go as far to say the Pack would be WORSE with Favre as he couldn’t handle getting hit as much as Rodgers).
The Queens can have their one attempted run and then what? The Packers have a guy who potentially could be the cornerstone for 10 or so years. Yeah, horrible move letting Favre go. You guys that have a man crush on Favre and blame TT really need to move on. Even sensible Queen fans know that the Pack made the right move.
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TT and McCarthy both need to do some serious reflecting on things. Frankly I am tired of waiting on TT. As to McCarthy, in the short term imagine what half the penalties would do for the team. He can solve that but doesn't have the stones to do it.
Lets see what he has to say about the penalties in his comments this week. Turn on the tough guy accent, we gotta fix the penalty situation, establish the run, protect the quarterback.
Man just rerun last weeks tape and the week before and the week before...
You get the drift.
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This is an immediate gratification world we live in. I'm all for win now if the opportunity presents itself. Let the chips fall where they may next year. With or without #4 the Vikes are STACKED with talent, and will be next year also. Suppose Green bay will be tired of Rodgers next year.....We might need him!! We'll trade TJack...He's VERY ATHLETIC!! With that being said if Favre truly does retire, and we need 1 player to dominate again next year I hope they go get him too!! Kudos to the Vikes Management on this one!! 
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Granrud, stick to guiding, running your mouth is too easy.
If anyone really seen beween the lines, they would know TT didn't "run Brett out of town". Brett told them HE WAS RETIRING!!!!! They make plans to move on.... he wants to come back... then he doesn't want to.... they go with Rogers for the future. DONE DEAL! All of you armchair GM's didn't even see that if Brett came back (for last year only), Rodgers was gone... PLAIN AND SIMPLE. So, TT did the future move and got Rodgers under long term contract. If Brett would have came back last year..... who would be QB now???????
But, I will back you on bashing TT on not getting good talent through Free Agency when he can. besides Woodson, did we get anyone else???? Simply building through the draft will not work this day and age, you have to suplement it!!!
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The given in life is winners will brag and losers will cry.
Seems to me it was very recently that the Packers were Gods and the rest of the NFL playing for second place.
So, what happened?
The team sucks this year, plain and simple. To place all the blame for it on losing Favre is simplistic at best. Anybody who watched the Pack against the Vikings knows the Pack problems run a bunch deeper then losing Favre.
If you need further proof wait until week 11 when your back up quarterbacks are playing because Rogers damn near gets killed on a weekly basis.
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What happened - Thompson keeps drafting 4th - 6th round offensive lineman hoping they will grow into the job, but this year Tauscher is gone, and Clifton has been injured all year, so he got caught with nobody to go to.
The packers also have needed defensive lineman for a couple years, but just keep letting them go, or trade them away.
I thought they should have tried to get Birk, and also try for a defensive lineman in the off season, when they did neither, the mold was cast for this year.
Having Judas leave did not help either, but that was all up to Brent in my view, he wanted out and he got his way, pretty much reminds alot of TO at this point based on how well he has treated the Packers and the Jets, hopefully he treats the Vikings better.
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He is "Home" now........... 
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Ted takes over the packers. Follow the list.
1. Lets our two starting guards go in free agency
2. Hires McCarthy over Marriucci
3. Does not get Moss in trade for a lousy 4th round pick
(Two times)
4. Drafts Harrell (currently on IR)
5. Drafts Hawk (bench warmer)
6. Have been millions under salary cap since his arrival
7. Has NOT signed any big name free agents
8. Shove a Pro Bowl Caliber QB out the door.
9. Have an excellent QB now but an AWFUL Offensive Line
10. Has not drafted a single Offensive Lineman in first round
Can we please put TT on waivers now?
You forgot about the deal that TT nixed last year when Tony Gonzalez (sp?) wanted out of Kansas City. It was close to a done deal when Kansas City asked for a 3rd round draft choice and TT would only agree to a 4th rounder. The Packers would have arguably the best tight end in football on their team, but TT HAD to drop down a round to get him.
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Don't forget that we were watching Ahman Green yesterday return kicks and play some in the backfield. I was looking around expecting Antonio Freeman and Mark Chmura to suit up!!
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I'm ok with building through the draft if you're good at it. Minnesota over the last few years has gotten Peterson and Harvin. The Pack have gotten Hawk and whoever else. That's a big difference.
TT is not a good talent evaluator, plain and simple. Running back hasn't been great for, well forever. O-line needs more help than ever before. Let Kampman play and get some rush penetration instead of pulling him back on every down. Get a big name D Lineman if MN doesn't scoop the rest of them up in the off season.
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Ok now, some of you need to remember this all in good fun. Life is too darn short to get this wound up over this. Heck, you could be a Bear fan watching that good young QB getting killed play after play because of Orlando Pace being dead and Orlando just not realizing it yet.
I heard on the radio last week that when GB traded "Brent" to NY, that the deal required NY to give GB three #1's if they traded him back GB's division.
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Ok now, some of you need to remember this all in good fun. Life is too darn short to get this wound up over this.
Good call Jeff! (unlike some in the first 1/2 of the game yesterday.)
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Problem is, if that clause was in there.... NY didn't "Trade" Brett, they released him....
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that was the microcosm of where these two teams are at.
1 has a exciting young rookie and the other has a old guy that's been out of the league for two years.
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Rodgers is a good QB and could have a successful career in GB. He won't last 10 years, though, if they don't do something about that o-line. I bet he is glad he only has to play Allen twice a year!
I can't get enough of that sweet purple kool-aide, but I do got to give the enemies QB (Rodgers) his props. He appears to be a class act, is tougher than I originally thought, moves well (although he needs to get rid of the ball quicker), and throws a nice ball. Rodgers has remained poised and played well in both games against the legend he replaced. He just seems to still lack that intangible that shows up on the field, but not in the stats. It's hard to describe, but when Favre played with the packers, it was like they were never out of it, and the players believed it. I see some of that with the VIKINGS even though he has only been there a short time. For years, Favre always seemed to make the mediocre or underachievers around him better players. Starting to see that with some of the VIKES players - Sydney Rice, woried he was becoming the next Troy Williamson, not anymore - Vicante Shiancoe (Sp), seemed to have the physical tools, but undrachieving. If Rodgers takes his game to that level, and they find a couple guys to protect his back, the pack could be force in the norse again.
Enough kind words about the green & yellow, SKOL VIKINGS, packers stink, pass the purple kool-aide for another week! Oh, and thanks Ted Thompson. 
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Rodgers is a good QB and could have a successful career in GB. He won't last 10 years, though, if they don't do something about that o-line. I bet he is glad he only has to play Allen twice a year!
I can't get enough of that sweet purple kool-aide, but I do got to give the enemies QB (Rodgers) his props. He appears to be a class act, is tougher than I originally thought, moves well (although he needs to get rid of the ball quicker), and throws a nice ball. Rodgers has remained poised and played well in both games against the legend he replaced. He just seems to still lack that intangible that shows up on the field, but not in the stats. It's hard to describe, but when Favre played with the packers, it was like they were never out of it, and the players believed it. I see some of that with the VIKINGS even though he has only been there a short time. For years, Favre always seemed to make the mediocre or underachievers around him better players. Starting to see that with some of the VIKES players - Sydney Rice, woried he was becoming the next Troy Williamson, not anymore - Vicante Shiancoe (Sp), seemed to have the physical tools, but undrachieving. If Rodgers takes his game to that level, and they find a couple guys to protect his back, the pack could be force in the norse again.
Enough kind words about the green & yellow, SKOL VIKINGS, packers stink, pass the purple kool-aide for another week! Oh, and thanks Ted Thompson.
Very good take on the situation in my opinion.
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I'm ok with building through the draft if you're good at it. Minnesota over the last few years has gotten Peterson and Harvin. The Pack have gotten Hawk and whoever else. That's a big difference.
TT is not a good talent evaluator, plain and simple. Running back hasn't been great for, well forever. O-line needs more help than ever before. Let Kampman play and get some rush penetration instead of pulling him back on every down. Get a big name D Lineman if MN doesn't scoop the rest of them up in the off season.
I always get a kick out of armchair GMs/coaches. I do the same, but to say that TT is not a good talent evaluator is a little off. Yes, he has made some horrible draft picks. He has made some great picks too. Name a GM that doesn’t make bad choices. And the team he built in Seattle went to the Super Bowl. Heck, one of the star offensive linemen for the Queens, Thompson got in Seattle.
People always have a short term memory. TT sucks because he didn’t go after Allen. Well, nobody did because of his baggage he brings with him. I believe one more hit with the substance abuse and he is gone. So yeah, teams shy away from that. When Grant was holding out, everybody was screaming at TT to get him signed. Now, we haven’t had a RB for several years? Well which is it then, sign Grant or not?? Everybody points to the Harrell pick. Yes, HORRIBLE, but if you remember at the time, many people/experts thought they should get Brady Quinn. Hmmm, that would have been a great pick. The Vikings do take risks. Again, remember about AP and Harvin. LOTS of question marks about toughness for AP (kind of why people wanted Quinn over Rodgers) and character for Harvin. But those things are easy just to forget about because they have worked out. AP was picked 7th, maybe the question should be about those GMs that didn’t pick him 1-6 and not about the Packers who didn’t draft until 16th (ummm, and picked Harrell).
It still amazes me people look at the Favre/TT thing and are pissed about it? End your man crush and look at the situation. So he hangs on to Favre for two more years and the Packers do nothing. Then he finally retires and Rodgers is gone. So now what? Then the Pack become like the Queens trying to find someone who can play QB for the next decade.
Do you want Sherman back? Just a reminder, Sherman traded draft picks for players like R-Kal Truluk, Derek Combs, and Rod Walker. Who are they? Exactly.
This reminds me of the Kentucky basketball program. Tubby was a great coach but the Kentucky fans thought that just wasn’t good enough and canned him (which turned into another benefit for MN). The next guy they bring in completely destroys the team.
So as usual, be careful what you wish for.
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I've also been frustrated by TT's lack of action regarding free agents. This is highlited when you watch the Vikings pickup Hutchinson, Longwell, Allen, and Farve.
As B Curtis stated, all GMs will miss on some of their draft picks.
Someone asked why TT doesn't use up their cap money. Mark Murphy answered this question when asked about last years cap space. They did use it up last year. After extending Rogers, there was very little left. By the time everything is said and done this year, there will be little or no space left. They will use the remaining space to resign some of their own players (Collins, Kampman, etc).
I don't place the Farve drama on TT or MM. And I'm not ready to throw in the towel on TT yet. So far his records are 8 - 8, 13 - 3, 6 - 10, and 4 - 3. There are 15 teams with worse records than the Packers this year. There are 4 more teams with the same record. Could we be better.. Probably. We could be much worse too. We haven't gotten beat 59 - 0 yet.
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The Packers will end up 8-8 this year at best IMO. So here is a question. Do they (why do people say "we" when referring to their favorite team??) continue to wait out the development of TT and McFlurry or do the Packers get off their backsides and aggressively pursue Cowher, Shannahan, Holmgren, Dungy, Mooch and whomever else is available and proven? I know what I'd do and wait it out isn't it.
The Packers used all their cap money the last two years? I don't buy it. Show me.
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The Packers used all their cap money the last two years? I don't buy it. Show me.
Ratt,
Unfortunately, previous years unused cap space isn't easy to find. I attended the Packer Fan Fest in Hudson a few months ago and Mark Murphy was asked why the Packers didn't use up their cap money last year. He indicated they did use up their cap last year - most of it when they extended Rogers. They saved enough space to bring in someone in case of an injury during the last few weeks of the season.
This article also eludes to Thompson using up their cap space by the end of the season.
Cap Space
I did see something that indicated that teams have until the last game of the year to use up this years cap space (unlike previous years where the deadline was early November). Thompson does need to get busy and extend some of our guys. I'd be willing to bet we won't have much space left by the end of the year.
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I stand by my statement about TT's talent evaluation. I'm not even a serious Packer fan, but love the game. I would rather see a GM take some risks for some potential upside. AJ Hawk was never really projected to be a great Linebacker in the NFL. If he played against sub-par Big 10 quarterbacks (yes I know there are a few really good big 10 quarterbacks in the NFL, but 2 or 3 out of 100 isn't that good) his entire career, then maybe.
I never said Green Bay should've traded up for Peterson or took Harvin, but at least the Vikes took a chance at somebody with huge upside that at worst could be worth something in trade later. Not all your picks can be potential picks (Jamarcus Russel for example, was a bad potential pick for Oakland), but maybe some should.
Hawk is going to be worth very little if they end up trading him as a bench warmer. The only reason I even care at all, is because I have to suffer every week watching my Badgers being coached by Man Cans Beilema, and seeing that program deteriorate. I should really fish more.
None of this really matters in the end.
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The Packers will end up 8-8 this year at best IMO. So here is a question. Do they (why do people say "we" when referring to their favorite team??) continue to wait out the development of TT and McFlurry or do the Packers get off their backsides and aggressively pursue Cowher, Shannahan, Holmgren, Dungy, Mooch and whomever else is available and proven? I know what I'd do and wait it out isn't it.
The Packers used all their cap money the last two years? I don't buy it. Show me.
You can bring in every coach you listed and it won't help without a talent infusion. Players and coaches who can make game plans and ajustments win. Everything else is just fodder for the internet.
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There is certainly truth in what you say. But one would have to be completely off base to assume the Packers have no quality talent when in fact they do. Sure there are obvious areas of improvement but the few spots that seem hardest for teams to fill are above average in Green Bay, QB being most obvious. The problem begins at the top. There is no viable direction from the tops down. TT flat refuses to sign veteran players. Use whatever excuse that feels best but he won't do it! Oh sure he gets 1-2 here or there but nothing like teams that WIN SUPER BOWLS! Coaching, at the highest position, is failed. McFlurry has repeated year after year that he is OK with "combative" penalties. The problem is he hasn't a clue what he is saying, obviously, because the team penalties have actually increased and they KILL drives. Of the total sacks this year, which by the way equal what most below average teams allow in a YEAR, not 8 games, McFlurry says "it is a process we will continue to work through." Exactly what the heck does that mean? It isn't a process you work through at all. It is a complete and utter failure at coaching.
All thew coaches I have listed above have been recipients of players from the EXACT same pool of players the Packers have drawn from. While the best coach can't make a no talent person compete like Favre the opposite is also true, the best players cannot succeed on a team with no leadership.
Holmgren for GM and Dungy or Cowher for coach! Get rid of the moronic impostors they have and now!
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I wouldn't say Green Bay doesn't have any talent, but I can only think of a few positions where their players are above average. Those are as follows.
Quarterback
Recievers (Jennings is a stud, and Driver is pretty consistent)
Secondary (at least Woodson this year, don't get me started on Harris)
That's about it. Linebackers are average at best, D Line is maybe OK, O Line - well we all know the story there, running back is average, tight ends have their bright moments and just as many major drops, special teams is not what I would call good either.
So overall, I would say the talent level as a whole is not good. 3-5 above average players does not make for a winning team. The Vikes are proving that good teams are made by good lines. The O line has a lot to do with Favres success and doesn't hurt a stud running back like Peterson. The D line obviously hasn't hurt them either.
If Green Bay wants to win they will build their lines. Plain and simple.
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Three years back, with basically the same team, the Packers were 13-3. Last year with the 13-3 team players minus Favre, the long snapper, and Kory Williams(?) they gave away after franchising him (remember that?) they went 6-10. The talent is there. Not that they can't improve as every team has to do though. But the basic talent is there. Poor, poor coaching.
And yes when will someone else wake up and realize Al Harris has been a wasted roster spot the last 3-4 years? Used to be my favorite player on D but no more. The guy is immensely gifted physically but his head has gotten so big it has gotten in the way of any talent he had.
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Why do so many people think Greg Jennings is such a stud reciever?
I just looked at his stats, and he has only 2 TD's this season, and is tied at 19th in the league for toatal catches.
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Look up his stats over the past few years....so what if he's having a slow start...He's a playmaker
2009 Green Bay Packers 7 games 29 rec. 437yds 15.1ave 53long 2TD
2008 Green Bay Packers 16 games 80 rec 1,292yds 16.2ave 63long 9TD
2007 Green Bay Packers 13 games 53 920yds 17.4ave 82long 12TD
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Them are some telling stats... 2007, 3 less games & his best year... QB Favre... 08, decline....no Favre... 09 decline, no Favre...  I agree, he "was" a stud receiver...
Something I have always thought about Favre and heard it the other day.... " He makes the players around him Better"
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Them are some telling stats... 2007, 3 less games & his best year... QB Favre... 08, decline....no Favre... 09 decline, no Favre... I agree, he "was" a stud receiver...
Something I have always thought about Favre and heard it the other day.... " He makes the players around him Better"
big G
I think this was the internet equivalent of throwing rocks at a hornets nest.
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Compare the amount of sacks to 07 too. If a quarterback spends every other snap on their back, it's pretty hard to get the ball to the recievers.
07 Favre only had about 100 more yards then Rodgers did in 08. The big difference was in 07 Favre was sacked 15 times, and in 08 Rodgers was sacked 34 times. In 07 Favre had one reciever over 1000 yards (Jennings). In 08 Rodgers had two (Jennings and Driver).
In 07 Favre had 4 recievers with over 250 yards, in 08 Rogers had 5. My point here is, maybe Rodgers is better at spreading the ball around, therefore one reciever is not going to have all of the receptions.
I hope everybody overlooks Jennings for the rest of the year.
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Them are some telling stats... 2007, 3 less games & his best year... QB Favre... 08, decline....no Favre... 09 decline, no Favre... I agree, he "was" a stud receiver...
Something I have always thought about Favre and heard it the other day.... " He makes the players around him Better"
big G
If you look at the stats- his best year was last year. Not as many TD's but he had way more yards. Driver is having a very nice year this year, so it equals out the lack of big plays from Jennings. In other words there is only one ball on each play- teams are looking to take Jennings out of the play so now it is Drivers turn. Also with the O-line play this year has hurt Jennings because he is a down field threat and Rodgers has not had time to allow Jennings to get open. Bottom line Jennings is a stud. No dought Favre makes others around him better, especially playmakers. He always has been that way. Look what he did for Freeman, Robert Brooks etc. The only really great reciever he ever had was Sterling Sharpe and his career ended just as Favre's was taking off. And Jennings was just starting as Favre left...I think the bottom line here is the O-line play has been very bad and that has hurt Jennings stats. It will be interesting to see what happens now that the Packers have inserted Clifton and Taucher as there tackles again. Much better players than what they had last Sunday if they can stay healthy
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P.S. to James. big G is always trying to stir the hornets nest. You just need to take him with a grain of salt and say "hey- he is big G"
Yup, he's definitely feeling out everyone's buttons.
Actually I have to applaud everyone for keeping this thread on track for the most part. It has been a very enjoyable read. 
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P.S. to James. big G is always trying to stir the hornets nest. You just need to take him with a grain of salt and say "hey- he is big G"
Yup, he's definitely feeling out everyone's buttons.
Actually I have to applaud everyone for keeping this thread on track for the most part. It has been a very enjoyable read.
Hard to believe it's the same chest beatin, loud talkin, know everything fans from a couple of years ago isn't it?
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Them are some telling stats... 2007, 3 less games & his best year... QB Favre... 08, decline....no Favre... 09 decline, no Favre... I agree, he "was" a stud receiver...
Something I have always thought about Favre and heard it the other day.... " He makes the players around him Better"
big G
I think this was the internet equivalent of throwing rocks at a hornets nest.
Run big G, run!
Funny thing.... we have a thread on the Hunting side, where we talk about how it's kinda nice to come and lip off over here.... then "run" back to the Huntin site  Over there we have Packer Fans, Bears Fans, Viking Fans and maybe even "a" Lions Fan over there and we play together great  Nice to have this site where we can let loose a little... all in good fun
big G
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You can tell how big a person is, by what it takes to discourage them! "Hooks"
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Big G is to IDO football threads as Brett Favre is to his team.
He makes everyone else around him......better!
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Big G is to IDO football threads as Brett Favre is to his team.
He makes everyone else around him......better
I think you Queens fans are smokin dope
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I guess we know where old Randy Moss was getting it from.
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I'm glad you guys are making the big g your spokesperson, I just think he is the Nancy Pelosi of football talk, but that's just my opinion!
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It sounds like a few homers on this site have a man crush on Big G. 
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I'm glad you guys are making the big g your spokesperson, I just think he is the Nancy Pelosi of football talk, but that's just my opinion!
That's all you got ??? Make me the majority leader... 2nd in succession of the highest office in this great land ??? Sounds like a compliment Thank You 
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It sounds like a few homers on this site have a man crush on Big G.
And your familiar with a "Man crush" how....???? 
big G
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Big G,
Having you here has made my life so much easier.
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I use to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure
Jack
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Glad I could help Jack I know with your being on the road, you need a little help keeping the cheese in line...
big G
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Interesting & entertaining read.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10325372/It's-the-Truth:-Favre's-proving-Thompson-wrong
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Interesting & entertaining read.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10325372/It's-the-Truth:-Favre's-proving-Thompson-wrong
Don't forget accurate.
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Wow a article from Jason Whitlock, that hurts (NOT) that guy is such a blowhard and I am surprised he wrote a article on a white guy.
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I'm just a jerk on one end of the rod waiting for a jerk on the other end.
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Ted Thompson "Thumbs Down"
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