LenH
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10-14 days after your kids have had H1N1. After all the symptoms go away watch your kids for sore throat and temperature spikes. It comes on quickly and is called Strep Pneumonia. It is very important to get your kid on an aggressive antibiotic quickly to avoid a hospital stay
Edited by LenH (11/05/09 12:25 PM)
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northstar
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Great advice. Thanks for the tip. I went to the Dr. yesterday for my annual and he would not even talk to me about a vaccine. People my age don't get H1N1. At least I get something for having to put up with this old body.
-------------------- Northstar - Even as you have done it unto the least of my children, you have done it unto me.
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Suzuki
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Great advice. Thanks for the tip. I went to the Dr. yesterday for my annual and he would not even talk to me about a vaccine. People my age don't get H1N1. At least I get something for having to put up with this old body.
That cant possibly be true? Tell me more.
-------------------- Mike
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Jon Jordan
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Your Dr is saying at your age and current general health status, you don't qualify to get the h1n1 shot right now. Only high risk groups are getting the shots and he did'nt feel you feel into that group.
You can get h1n1 just like any human who has not been vacinated or has already had the virus and kicked it naturally.
-J.
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Jared Rypka-Hauer
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I was gonna say... if that's what your doctor said, then it's time to get a new doctor.
There's a difference between "can't get" and "likely to die if you do" and it's the folks who are relatively more likely to end up in the ICU that they're giving the (relatively scarce) vaccine to.
-------------------- Whoever first said "Better a bad day fishing than a good day at work" is the wisest person who ever lived.
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whittsend
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H1N1 vaccines are being given on a limited basis depending on who you go to. Most are being given to high risk patients and healthcare workers first. I think Walgreens is giving it to anyone who wants to pay for it (if they still have stock), so you might be able to get it there.
Northstar - If you haven't already, you could consider getting Pneumovax... The vaccination for Strepococcus Pneumoniae, which is the infection LenH was referring to. I believe it is usually given to people 65 and older. Acording to popular media, S.Pneumo is causing more deaths when co-infecting hosts concurrently with H1N1. I haven't read anything scientific on the subject though, nor have I heard or read anything from credible sources, so I won't comment any further... I have no idea how idea how prevalent or widespread these concurrent infections are....
Also, be careful reading and re-posting people's parapharsed words... Miscommunication (especially in healthcare) can cause some serious problems, and usually in the media (yes, IDO is a form of media) just causes incorrectly informed hype in many cases.
2 cents worth.
-------------------- Do what you want. This is only an opinion. I'm not here to offer advice or recommendations in any professional capacity whatsoever.
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whittsend
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Copied straight from the CDC website...
Why aren't people 65 and older recommended to get early doses of 2009 H1N1 vaccine? There are two main reasons why people age 65 and older are not included in the groups recommended to get the initial doses of 2009 H1N1 vaccine:
1. People age 65 and older are least likely to get sick with this virus, and, 2. There will be limited amounts of vaccine available at first, so the first doses are recommended to go to those who are most likely to get infected and become very ill.
http://www.cdc.gov/H1N1flu/vaccination/vaccine_seniors.htm
It said that seniors were about 20 TIMES less likely to get the H1N1 flu than younger persons.
-------------------- Do what you want. This is only an opinion. I'm not here to offer advice or recommendations in any professional capacity whatsoever.
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*Nick*
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Well we got the kids their first dose of the vaccine today. Wife stopped in at the Dr. office today, during her visit she asked about the vaccine, the said they would only give it to one of our kids the older girl (3) and the boy (1.5) didn't yet qualify, at least at that clinic, they said they only had 10 doses in.
Wife called our kid's normal Dr. and the said they were having a "shot clinic", kids under 5 years, pregnant women, and adults with kids under 6 months.
Apparently we have to bring them back in, in 30 days for another H1N1 dose. They said it would also take 2 weeks before they could be considered to have some immunization "benefits"
Personally I feel much better
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northstar
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"Northstar - If you haven't already, you could consider getting Pneumovax... The vaccination for Strepococcus Pneumoniae," ------Been there done that.
My bad. He didn't say I couldn't get it, he said it was highly unlikely and that the medical profession is hardly seeing anyone my age with H1N1. I know better than to say such a thing and apologize to anyone who took it wrong. Apparently during the 50s a strain of flu went around that is much like H1N1 and that is protecting us. I remember having a bad case of flue during the 50s and that is probably correct.
Personally, I'm a great fan of vaccinations. I am a polio survivor and am glad to see the end of that terrible disease as well as small pox. Get those younguns in there and give them a chance. Even one death is far too many and even if there isn't a fatality, the little ones can get terribly sick. This is bad stuff.
-------------------- Northstar - Even as you have done it unto the least of my children, you have done it unto me.
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whittsend
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No appology needed, Northstar.... My comment wasn't directed at you or anyone in particular, nor was it meant to irritate or call anyone out. I was just trying to say to use caution when quoting or passing on he said/she said information, especially when it comes to healthcare. Sometimes bad information (even with good intentions) can be misleading and potentially dangerous.
Hope everyone has a healthy/happy flu season! 
Mike
-------------------- Do what you want. This is only an opinion. I'm not here to offer advice or recommendations in any professional capacity whatsoever.
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chomps
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this can get scary, although I personally know quite a few people who have gone through the H1N1 with out too much trouble (more than 20), my wife knows 3 people who have died in the past three weeks. Although the deaths were not directly from H1N1, death was from Len was talking about (indirectly). Both left family behind, and 2 were males, one female all between the ages of 31-44. As soon as i can I'm getting a shot.
-------------------- Pete
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Suzuki
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Good post. Good luck to everyone! I cant exactly remember the last time I had the flu. I think it was Christmas of my 14th year. I sure remember that episode. Easily the worst sicknes of my life.
-------------------- Mike
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Czech
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As mentioned, the rationale regarding the older population is that they may have an inate immunity based on previous exposure. This is not the first H1N1 to go around historically, the 1918 outbreak being the worst thus far with the semi more recent mid 70's outbreak being H1N1 also.
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Wade Kuehl
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CDC - Prevention Of Pneumococcal Infections Secondary To Seasonal And 2009 H1N1 Influenza
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October 23, 2009, 4:30 PM ET What is Pneumococcal Disease?
Pneumococcal disease is an infection caused by a type of bacteria called Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumococcus). When these bacteria invade the lungs, they can cause pneumonia. They can also invade the bloodstream (bacteremia) and/or the tissues and fluids surrounding the brain and spinal cord (meningitis). Pneumococcal infection kills thousands of people in the United States each year, most of them 65 years of age or older. What are the Symptoms of Pneumococcal Disease?
The symptoms of pneumococcal pneumonia include fever, cough, shortness of breath, and chest pain. The symptoms of pneumococcal meningitis include stiff neck, fever, mental confusion and disorientation, and visual sensitivity to light (photophobia). The symptoms of pneumococcal bacteremia may be similar to some of the symptoms of pneumonia and meningitis, along with joint pain and chills. Why is Prevention of Pneumococcal Disease Important during Influenza Season?
Influenza infections can make people more likely to develop bacterial pneumonia. Pneumococcus is the most common cause of bacterial pneumonia. Pneumococcal infections are a serious complication of seasonal and 2009 H1N1 influenza infections and can cause death. How can High-Risk Individuals Protect Themselves from Pneumococcal Disease?
There is a vaccine to protect high-risk individuals 2 through 64 years of age against serious pneumococcal disease. The vaccine, pneumococcal polysaccharide vaccine (PPSV), is safe and effective. Most people need a single dose of the pneumococcal vaccine in a lifetime. All children less than 5 years of age should receive a different vaccine called pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (PCV7); high risk children 2 to 4 years of age need both pneumococcal vaccines. Who should get Pneumococcal Polysaccharide Vaccine (PPSV)?
Approximately 70 million people who should be receiving PPSV are not yet vaccinated (National Health Interview Survey, 2007). View chart showing who is not yet vaccinated.
PPSV is recommended for:
* People who are 65 years of age and older * People 2 years of age and older who have a chronic illness such as: o cardiovascular or lung disease o sickle cell disease o diabetes o alcoholism o chronic liver disease o cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) leak o a cochlear implant * People 2 years of age and older with a weakened immune system o Due to illnesses such as: + HIV infection + AIDS + chronic renal failure + nephrotic syndrome + organ or bone marrow transplantation + Hodgkin’s disease + leukemia + lymphoma + multiple myeloma + generalized malignancy o Those receiving immunosuppressive therapy (e.g., steroids) o Those who have had their spleen removed or whose spleen is dysfunctional due to an illness such as sickle cell disease. o Residents of nursing homes or long-term care facilities * People 19 through 64 years of age who smoke cigarettes or have asthma.
During the 2009-2010 influenza season, vaccinating people 2 through 64 years of age who have the above risk conditions is most important because people in this group may be more likely to develop secondary bacterial pneumonia after an influenza infection.
Healthy persons less than 65 years of age are not recommended to receive PPSV. Can Adults get Pneumococcal (PPSV) and Influenza Vaccines at the Same Time?
Yes, pneumococcal vaccine may be given at the same time as influenza vaccine. Pneumococcal vaccine can be given at any time during the year. Because the adult groups for whom pneumococcal and seasonal influenza vaccines are recommended are similar, the need for pneumococcal vaccination should be evaluated at the time of annual influenza vaccination. The need for pneumococcal vaccination should also be evaluated at the time of 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccination. Persons who cannot remember if they’ve ever had pneumococcal vaccine should still be vaccinated.
During the 2009-2010 influenza season, work with your healthcare provider to determine when you can get your pneumococcal, seasonal influenza, and 2009 H1N1 influenza vaccines. Is the Pneumococcal Vaccine (PPSV) Safe?
The pneumococcal vaccine is considered safe. Some people experience mild side effects, but these are usually minor and last only a short time. When side effects do occur, the most common include swelling and soreness at the injection site. A few people experience fever and muscle pain. Anyone who has a severe allergy to any component of the vaccine should not get that vaccine. As with any medicine, there are very small risks that serious problems could occur after getting the vaccine. However, the potential risks associated with pneumococcal disease are much greater than the potential risks associated with the pneumococcal vaccine. You cannot get pneumococcal disease from the vaccine.
Ask your healthcare provider if you should delay receiving the pneumococcal vaccine if you have an illness with fever or other active infection.
-------------------- Wade Kuehl - Jolly Ann Marine & Outdoors
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Czech
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And tonight's cash cab question is...
Why isn't influ B a bigger problem (H1N1 is A influ)? First correct answer gets a bucket of Dean's great free minnows (still kicking great I may mention)from last weekend on Pool 4. Can't believe that was my first time there, I'm planning on being a regular! Go google, you'll be surprised at who the B host is.
-------------------- Always remember: Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
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whittsend
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This was on Wikipedia... NO, I DO NOT CONSIDER WIKIPEDIA TO BE A RELIABLE SOURCE!! Just thought this might be what you are looking for?? Ferrets and Seals.... Lots of Seals in MN and WI, so look out!!!
"Influenza B almost exclusively infects humans[17] and is less common than influenza A. The only other animals known to be susceptible to influenza B infection are the seal[19] and the ferret.[20]"
BTW, here is the CDC link to staph co-infections:
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/flustaph.htm
-------------------- Do what you want. This is only an opinion. I'm not here to offer advice or recommendations in any professional capacity whatsoever.
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Suzuki
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Speaking of illness, I'm getting sick of this post..
-------------------- Mike
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Czech
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Good one Whit! Who would have thought seals? I agree Mike, I'm done!
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Jared Rypka-Hauer
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Hey, I learned something on this thread!
Never dispense medical advice on a fishing forum.
-------------------- Whoever first said "Better a bad day fishing than a good day at work" is the wisest person who ever lived.
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whittsend
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Hey, I learned something on this thread!
Never dispense medical advice on a fishing forum.
(Or trust it, for that matter!!)
-------------------- Do what you want. This is only an opinion. I'm not here to offer advice or recommendations in any professional capacity whatsoever.
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Suzuki
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Good one Whit! Who would have thought seals? I agree Mike, I'm done!
Wasnt there an old joke that ended with,"blew a seal."?
-------------------- Mike
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HaywardBound
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Wasnt there an old joke that ended with,"blew a seal."?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxJRSmIBjd4
-------------------- Jon
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Czech
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That is the best all time top ten joke there is!!!!
-------------------- Always remember: Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
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northstar
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Now that's funny!!!
-------------------- Northstar - Even as you have done it unto the least of my children, you have done it unto me.
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