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MN Walleye Possesion Limits


With different slots and number of fish than can be kept,.how does it work if you travel to several lakes on one trip?

e.g St Louis river with a 2 fish limit over 15" and then to Mille Lacs for a protected slot and 4 fish limit. Could 6 fish be legally kept if in the slot or just 4?

How about the same trip with 2 fish from each lake that were legal and then to a lake where 6 fish could be kept?

Thanks,..several walleye anglers from the office and got to talking about "what ifs"


big G

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Think of it this way... every walleye caught in MN, counts toward your limit. On each body of water, each caught there, count specifically towards that bodies limit. So 2 on the river, 4 on Mille Lacs, then you are done. You caught the limit on each body, which took you to your daily state limit. Don't quote me, but I believe that unless you are checked leaving the lake over the lakes limit, the DNR will look at a state limit. They will ask you where you were fishing, you best have that limit or less, but unless they seen you or are suspiscious, they really can't tell very easily where you were fishing. When you filet fish, you have to leave the 1" patch of skin on the filets. I always like to label the bag too, what, how many and when and where caught Could sure help when needed.

big G

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flatfish

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Big G > that is a great explanation.
A good shore lunch fish dinner will help eliminate the confusion too...


Mark Bruzek

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keep in mind if you bring 2 fish from another lake to Mille Lacs the CO will count those as fish from ML. -Mark

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Jesse Krook

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Isnt there a daily bag limit and a possesion limit ? Couldnt I go to the river catch my daily bag limit then fillet them throw 'em on ice and head to another lake or back out on the river for another daily bag limit ?

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Rootski

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Isnt there a daily bag limit and a possesion limit ? Couldnt I go to the river catch my daily bag limit then fillet them throw 'em on ice and head to another lake or back out on the river for another daily bag limit ?




Jesse check out:

http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/rlp/regulations/fishing/fishing2010.pdf

It says "Daily and possession limits are the same unless otherwise noted".

Rootski

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Wade B AKA: Ruger2506

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Isnt there a daily bag limit and a possesion limit ? Couldnt I go to the river catch my daily bag limit then fillet them throw 'em on ice and head to another lake or back out on the river for another daily bag limit ?




Possession limit and daily bag limit ARE THE SAME for walleye in MN. Take it from me, I learned that with first hand experience.

Some of you guys may remember a time when possession was TWICE the daily bag limit. I can't tell you how many MN fisherman have debated this with me as they remembered it being that way.

Point is, read the regs book diligently EVERY year. Things change. Thankfully the CO that educated me was kind, generous and professional.

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BrianKAdministrator

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and that's the difference between buying a MN or WI license on the Mississippi.

If you have a MN license 6 fish and that's it.

If you have a WI license (and not from MN) you can have 12 walleye/sauger (if you've fished for two days).

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big G

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keep in mind if you bring 2 fish from another lake to Mille Lacs the CO will count those as fish from ML. -Mark




Are you saying, if a person has 4 filets (2 fish) in the back of his truck, frozen(Iced) that a CO will assume you caught those in Mille Lacs, no questions asked ? I can understand, you can't take them in the boat, or have in your livewell. (livewells have to be drained) I know there is verbage such as "on your person" and "in your posession" but how can they tell if the fish in the cooler in your truck are from Mille Lacs, anymore than they can tell the ones in your fridge across the road ? I don't doubt this could happen to someone, but has it ???

big G

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Wade B AKA: Ruger2506

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keep in mind if you bring 2 fish from another lake to Mille Lacs the CO will count those as fish from ML. -Mark




Are you saying, if a person has 4 filets (2 fish) in the back of his truck, frozen(Iced) that a CO will assume you caught those in Mille Lacs, no questions asked ? I can understand, you can't take them in the boat, or have in your livewell. (livewells have to be drained) I know there is verbage such as "on your person" and "in your posession" but how can they tell if the fish in the cooler in your truck are from Mille Lacs, anymore than they can tell the ones in your fridge across the road ? I don't doubt this could happen to someone, but has it ???

big G




I guess the way I look at it is, "Would I want to take that gamble?" You have to remember, the CO's only have the facts at hand. Regardless of what you tell them.

I think all of us (as the CO) would believe that your scenario above is a person who is breaking the law with an over limit. At least I would as I don't lake jump very often if ever.

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Joe Winter

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This topic has come up many times when talking about ice fishing LOW and Red. It has been explained that if you have fish from LOW (for example)that those fish need to be kept on shore before fishing on Red. So I would think the same would apply on open water no matter the 2 lakes in question.

slipperybob

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keep in mind if you bring 2 fish from another lake to Mille Lacs the CO will count those as fish from ML. -Mark




Are you saying, if a person has 4 filets (2 fish) in the back of his truck, frozen(Iced) that a CO will assume you caught those in Mille Lacs, no questions asked ? I can understand, you can't take them in the boat, or have in your livewell. (livewells have to be drained) I know there is verbage such as "on your person" and "in your posession" but how can they tell if the fish in the cooler in your truck are from Mille Lacs, anymore than they can tell the ones in your fridge across the road ? I don't doubt this could happen to someone, but has it ???

big G




It has something to do with possession limit, while being on that particular body of water. It doesn't have to be caught directly while being on the body of water.

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big G

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One thing that happens alot... for people who don't fish Mille Lacs regularly, they go to a lake further north, fish, then "hit" Mille Lacs on the way home... my brother in laws do it all the time. I don't know why a CO would not believe you, if you have fish that are cleaned and frozen, while you are actively fishing ???

big G

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big G

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Possession limit alone, will not affect how many you can keep on Mille Lacs, the Mille Lacs specific limit will also. In other words, I can catch 4 fish on Mille Lacs on friday night, clean and freeze, then catch 2 more on saturday, clean and freeze. If my wife is at the cabin too,(licensed angler) now I can catch 4 per day, until I reach 12 in our possession. Make sense ???

big G

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Wade B AKA: Ruger2506

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Possession limit alone, will not affect how many you can keep on Mille Lacs, the Mille Lacs specific limit will also. In other words, I can catch 4 fish on Mille Lacs on friday night, clean and freeze, then catch 2 more on saturday, clean and freeze. If my wife is at the cabin too,(licensed angler) now I can catch 4 per day, until I reach 12 in our possession. Make sense ???

big G




BG, that makes perfect sense. I don't think a CO would give you grief for fish in the freezer at the cabin or camper. However I wouldn't want to take that chance with unfrozen fish in a cooler in your truck.

Who's to say you didn't come back to shore, clean the fish, put them on ice, then go back out?

Just another reason I keep just enough to eat that day and don't worry about stocking the freezer.

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Timmy

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Possession limit alone, will not affect how many you can keep on Mille Lacs, the Mille Lacs specific limit will also. In other words, I can catch 4 fish on Mille Lacs on friday night, clean and freeze, then catch 2 more on saturday, clean and freeze. If my wife is at the cabin too,(licensed angler) now I can catch 4 per day, until I reach 12 in our possession. Make sense ???

big G




This seems like a grey area to me.....

If I am staying at a resort on Mille Lacs for the weekend, and I get checked by a CO and tell him that I only have the 2 walleyes in my livewell plus 4 more from the day before back at the cabin....... I thought that would be a ticket in the making????? I know the state limit is 6, but it sure seems that having 6 in possession while staying there would be asking for a ticket??? Or am I just being too cautious?


T

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Wade B AKA: Ruger2506

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I'm not sure. Here is a DNR Mille Lacs Letter
http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/fisheries/regs/20100707_MilleLacsReg.pdf
Looks to address BAG LIMIT

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Timmy

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However I wouldn't want to take that chance with unfrozen fish in a cooler in your truck.

Who's to say you didn't come back to shore, clean the fish, put them on ice, then go back out?

Just another reason I keep just enough to eat that day and don't worry about stocking the freezer.





That is one thing that really rubs me the wrong way. The whole attitude in general of "why take a chance at getting a ticket"..... If you are not breaking a law, you shouldn't have to worry about getting pinched. Whatever happened to being innocent until proven guilty? It seems that everybody pretty much accepts the fact that the DNR will find you guilty and you'll have to prove your innocence...... Seems awful wrong to me. I like keeping fish and I don't like having to worry about staying below limits and slot sizes just because a CO will assume I am a violater. Hence my deep seated mistrust of our DNR.

T

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slipperybob

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Possession limit alone, will not affect how many you can keep on Mille Lacs, the Mille Lacs specific limit will also. In other words, I can catch 4 fish on Mille Lacs on friday night, clean and freeze, then catch 2 more on saturday, clean and freeze. If my wife is at the cabin too,(licensed angler) now I can catch 4 per day, until I reach 12 in our possession. Make sense ???

big G




That is how it goes. Although I do believe you can't catch fish for another angler, who is not there to physically fish. In your scenario, your wife didn't do any fishing.

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Wade B AKA: Ruger2506

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Possessing Fish From the Regs Books
1. Daily and possession limits are the same unless otherwise noted. Fish are in an anglers possession
whether on hand, in cold storage, in transport, or
elsewhere.
2. Once a daily or possession limit of fish has been reached, no culling or live well sorting is allowed.
3. While on or fishing waters with size restrictions it is illegal to possess any fish outside legal length limits.
4. If legally taken from a connected water or having been packaged by a licensed fish packer, a person who is in transit and taking the most direct route back to their lodging or docking, and not fishing, may possess fish outside of or in excess of the limits for that water body.

Numbers 1 and 4 seem to contradict each other. I read #1 to say once you catch your 4 on Mille Lacs, you cannot have 6 fish in your possession at the Cabin on Mille Lacs. Possession Limit is the same as Daily Bag Limit. So Big G and his wife can only have 8 in possession as long as she fishes with him.

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Edited by Wade B AKA: Ruger2506 (10/13/10 08:35 AM)


slipperybob

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I guess I didn't read that the cabin is connected to the boundaries of the body of water or on a resort associated on the boundaries of the body of the water or something. All too often I think it's a place away from the body of the water. So I too will read that your 4 possesion still holds as for being on a cabin on Mille Lacs.

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big G

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While actively fishing, I cannot catch her license limit, unless she is with. Once they turn from Bag Limit (active fishing limit) it doesn't matter who caught them. I cannot catch 4 fish on friday, freeze and go back out until saturday... one the other hand, if she goes with, we can get 4 more. The license allows you to fish or not fish, but you can still legally have a possession limit of all species licensed for. Unless something has changed recently..

big G

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Jon Jordan

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G, if you are only fishing Mille Lacs, you can only posses 8 fish. (Assuming 2 licenses) Once you have 8 fish in the freezer you can't fish Mille Lacs until you have a fish fry.

-J.


Wade B AKA: Ruger2506

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I can tell you guys it's been a huge complaint of mine for years how Montana, Iowa, and NoDak write their big game laws/regs. Very confusing. Now MN and other states are making the fishing regs similar.

Who would have thought you need a PHD in literature to interpret/understand the fish and game laws.

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big G

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1. Daily and possession limits are the same unless otherwise noted. Fish are in an anglers possession
whether on hand, in cold storage, in transport, or
elsewhere.

It is noted "elsewhere" that possession limit for MN is 6 walleyes, per licensed angler. They are in your possession, whether in your livewell, truck, cabin, back home, whatever, they are in your possession. When in your freezer, they are "not" in your daily bag limit(unless caught that same day).... it is written very confusing, but is crystal clear to me. I can legally have 10 walleyes in my freezer at home and can then catch 2 more anywhere in the state, that 2 are allowed. I can have zero in my freezer at home, 6 at the cabin in the fridge (across the road from Mille) and can catch 4 more on Mille Lacs, provided the others were caught at least a day prior and could get the other 6 if I take another licensed angler with. You just have to get past what a Daily LImit is, a Bag limit and a possession limit. They can all be the same and all different, depends on the water, depends on special regs and depends on how many licensed anglers you have in your household, once they hit the fridge/freezer.

big G

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slipperybob

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I guess I cannot comprehend the combined husband and wife license other than saving a few dollars. Since my wife doesn't really fish, so I can never count on her to ever get her limit when I rarely get a limit myself.

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Wade B AKA: Ruger2506

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Do we ever have any CO's who frequent this site and can offer professional input? James, it might be a nice feature for this site. "ASK A CO" forum.

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Edited by Wade B AKA: Ruger2506 (10/13/10 09:02 AM)


big G

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G, if you are only fishing Mille Lacs, you can only posses 8 fish. (Assuming 2 licenses) Once you have 8 fish in the freezer you can't fish Mille Lacs until you have a fish fry.

-J.




Where is this law written Jon ? Is it actually spelled out that Mille Lacs walleye possession limit is different than state limit ? I know the bag limit is different, but possession ? If I have 8 walleye in my freezer at home (St Cloud), I cannot fish Mille Lacs again, until I consume them ? Why would they have a law they cannot enforce ??? This is a good conversation as there seems to be alot left to the imagination of each individual.

big G

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Jon Jordan

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Bag and possession are the same. Mille Lacs is 4. Other lakes are 6. If you only fish Mille Lacs your limit is 4. (It don't matter where the fish are kept.)


-J.


Jon Jordan

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G, try calling one of the Mille Lacs CO's. See if you get a different answer.

Scott Fitzgerald 320-684-2440 Malmo
Mike Lee 320-676-1847 Isle
Greg Verkuilen 320-692-5777 Garrison
Dan Perron 320-495-3961 Onamia
Luke Croat 320-927-6453 Wealthwood

-J.


kroger3

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A couple of years ago I was fishing Namakan Lake and stopped by Red on the way home to try to top off out state limit and with what we had in the truck we were over the Red Lake limit and were stopped at the ramp. Long story short I explained to the CO where we came from and he told me as long as you have proof of your stroy it is ok. I had to dig out my camping pass that was dated to show we actually came from Namakan. No issue after that at all.

big G

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That's just it... you shouldn't have to call a CO for the answer... from everything I have been taught/read..there are different meanings for limits. Simply put...

Bag limit = what you currently have caught, in your livewell, in your "bag" (may vary from lake to lake)

Daily limit = amount you can catch in 24 hours, in 1 "day" friday, saturday etc. (may vary from lake to lake, but is never more than possession limit either))

Possession limit = ultimately, what you can have total, maximum, including all limits and places combined. (did not know this can vary from lake to lake, a month after fishing ? can be more than a specific lakes daily or bag limit)

I have never read or heard where you can only have 4 Mille Lacs walleyes, in your freezer at one time, when the possession limit for the state is 6.... (I understand 4 in your bag and allowed daily) I don't doubt what a CO would say, but how can they be expected to enforce a law that is #1, not spelled out in the regs and #2 , virtually impossible to enforce ???? Just looking for some documentation as a court would.

big G

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Jon Jordan

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Just because the law is impossible to enforce doesn't mean it should not be understood and followed.

-J.


Timmy

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Just because the law is impossible to enforce doesn't mean it should not be understood and followed.

-J.




But I think at the very least, it SHOULD BE clearly defined.

T

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Jon Jordan

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Just because the law is impossible to enforce doesn't mean it should not be understood and followed.

-J.




But I think at the very least, it SHOULD BE clearly defined.

T




They make perfect sense to me.

I think G is getting stuck on the meaning of "Otherwise noted..." When the lake has special regs that is the "Otherwise noted" lake. The special regs override the state regs.

-J.


DaveB

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I am with Jon on this one. If you are on a water with reduced limits, you cannot have any more than that limit from that water.

Now, if you have two in your fridge at home (better be miles from the water!), you can have 4 more from Mille for a total of 6.

If those 2 from home are in a bag labeled with the name of a Mille Lacs resort, you are over your limit of 4.



Big G, do you think you can catch 4 before midnight and 2 after for 6 in the well? How would this be any different than having 4 in your fridge at the cabin? Is the possession any different (assuming no other people are involved) if you are on the water or off?


Wade B AKA: Ruger2506

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1. Daily and possession limits are the same unless otherwise noted. For me this seems to be the written in stone rule. 4 Mille Lacs Walleye in possession/person, period. No matter if they are in my freezer in Rochester or in a cooler at a resort on Mille Lacs.

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big G

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Big G, do you think you can catch 4 before midnight and 2 after for 6 in the well? How would this be any different than having 4 in your fridge at the cabin? Is the possession any different (assuming no other people are involved) if you are on the water or off?




Nope, in your well, they are in your "bag"....

big G

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big G

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1. Daily and possession limits are the same unless otherwise noted. For me this seems to be the written in stone rule. 4 Mille Lacs Walleye in possession/person, period. No matter if they are in my freezer in Rochester or in a cooler at a resort on Mille Lacs.




That's just it.... UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED..... daily limit for walleyes in MN = 6, same as possession. Daily limit for Mille Lacs = 4, so this is noted otherwise.... where can I read that possession limit of Mille Lacs is 4... not the Bag or Daily limit....

big G

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Timmy

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Now, if you have two in your fridge at home (better be miles from the water!), you can have 4 more from Mille for a total of 6.





Here is where I will pick a nit with the argument. I don't care how far your fridge is away from Mille Lacs - once you leave that shore, you are not on the lake. If you live on the shore of the pond and fish another lake....that does not limit you to four fish in posession just because you are close to the lake....


I am siding with G on this one. I see nowhere that the laws tell you that posession limit is the same as the special reg limit....but it IS clearly defined that daily bag limits can not exceed posession limits. 10 feet or 10 miles away is irrelavent.

T

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Wade B AKA: Ruger2506

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I'm just enjoying the debate. I really don't care as I keep just enough for a meal and I hardly ever have fish in the freezer. Can't tell you the last time I've kept a limit except Red where the limit was 2 fish.

Just trying to help you guys stay away from a ticket. I've been there myself once. That was enough.

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Edited by Wade B AKA: Ruger2506 (10/13/10 10:34 AM)


Jon Jordan

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I have a call into the DNR. Holding for a call back....

-J.


ou812

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Great topic guys! Clear as mud.

I always wondered why I can snowshoe into Basswood, catch 6 pike which is legal, get stopped by a CO on Fall Lake on my walk out, which has a 3 pike limit, and the CO takes my word for where I caught my fish and says "Have a nice day!", yet if I tried to do the same on Red Lake with a limit of LOW walleyes they would throw me in jail for life?!?

WARNING!!!(That last part is tongue in cheek for you soft-skinned politically correct fellas.)


big G

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I have a call into the DNR. Holding for a call back....

-J.




Sounds good Jon

I am trying to give Sue Ellen at the DNR emails a break from me... I too enjoy the discussion, if I am wrong, I want to find out here where it is free

big G

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walleyeben

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This topic has come up many times when talking about ice fishing LOW and Red. It has been explained that if you have fish from LOW (for example)that those fish need to be kept on shore before fishing on Red. So I would think the same would apply on open water no matter the 2 lakes in question.


that's what the CO told me in a freindly gas station conversation, and regardless oof where they are you are allowed 4 fish if that's the regs for that water. Example being you can't take 4 the first day and eat 2 and freeze 2 then go get 4 more the next day, regardless of the possesion limit.

big G

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This topic has come up many times when talking about ice fishing LOW and Red. It has been explained that if you have fish from LOW (for example)that those fish need to be kept on shore before fishing on Red. So I would think the same would apply on open water no matter the 2 lakes in question.


that's what the CO told me in a freindly gas station conversation, and regardless oof where they are you are allowed 4 fish if that's the regs for that water. Example being you can't take 4 the first day and eat 2 and freeze 2 then go get 4 more the next day, regardless of the possesion limit.




OK, how about we catch 8 in May... my wife and I eat 2 and freeze 6. (they are in the freezer at the house, 70 miles from Mille Lacs) then in Sept, I go fishing on Mille Lacs... my limit is then 2 ? How on earth would a CO enforce this ? How on earth can you expect people to follow this ? If that is the law, it should be written that way.... that's all. I have yet to read that the "possession" limit of walleyes from Mille Lacs is different than the possession limit of the rest of the state....I am not talking about bag or daily limits... I find it hard to believe something a CO says at a conveinence store will hold up as law in court, either way. If this is a gray area, it should be cleared up and I would say it is very gray....

big G

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das_bass

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1. Daily and possession limits are the same unless otherwise noted. For me this seems to be the written in stone rule. 4 Mille Lacs Walleye in possession/person, period. No matter if they are in my freezer in Rochester or in a cooler at a resort on Mille Lacs.


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That's just it.... UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED..... daily limit for walleyes in MN = 6, same as possession. Daily limit for Mille Lacs = 4, so this is noted otherwise.... where can I read that possession limit of Mille Lacs is 4... not the Bag or Daily limit....

big G





Unless otherwise posted means for example, a limit of 4 Mille Lacs walleye in your freezer at home that you personaly caught. You wife can have 4 Mille Lacs walleye as well that she caught. You can each have 2 walleye from some other waters as well. If you fished in Wisconsin with a Wisconsin lisense, I believe you are allowed a Wisconsin limit as well. Legally, you can't have more than 4 Mille Lacs walleye that you personally caught.

And if you get lucky and catch 2 28+" walleye yourself on Mille Lacs, you can't keep both in your freezer legally. You have a limit of 1 28+" walleye, and your wife also can have one 28+" walleye that she caught. If you make the mistake of telling a CO you personally caught both of them, you can expect a ticket, just like a friend of mine got. Those fish were in his freezer in the cabin he was renting for the week.

Now, PROVING that you and/or your wife are over the limit of Mille Lacs walleye in your freezer at home wouldn't be easy, although it could be done by testing the fish. The only realistic way you would get in trouble there is if you told someone you have more than 1 possession limit of Mille Lacs walleye that you caught in your freezer.


big G

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And this is written where ? I see no mention of Mille Lacs Lake Walleye Possession limit.. I see bag and daily limits referenced only. I know all about the 28" rule.... at what point does a 28" hanging on your wall, not become in your possession anymore ? I think it is when the filets are removed & eaten/destroyed, but am not sure. Can you have 1 at the taxidermist shop in his freezer and go fish for another ???

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Wade B AKA: Ruger2506

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Can you have 1 at the taxidermist shop in his freezer and go fish for another ???

big G




That's a great question. I know my taxidermist gets a copy of my license so if he gets checked. He can prove the legality of all the animals he's got.

Simple solution there, CPR the fish and get a replica.

I don't think anyone is saying you can't have 6 fish in the freezer. But the way I read it, you can ONLY have 4 MILLE LACS walleye in the freezer per person. Along those same lines, Red Lake (4 fish/person).

If you have 4 Red Lake or 4 Mille Lacs walleye in your freezer, legally you cannot fish AND keep any more fish from the same lake (Red or ML respectively).

FROM THE MN REGS

Red Lake, Upper including Shotley Brook and Tamarack River (Beltrami Co.). Northern pike: all from 26-40" must be immediately released. Only one over 40" allowed in possession. Walleye: Restrictions or changes will be posted at public access sites and on the DNR Web site.

****A person's statewide bag limit may not include more than current daily bag limit of Red Lake walleye.****

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Edited by Wade B AKA: Ruger2506 (10/13/10 01:36 PM)


big G

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We will wait for Jon's return call I guess, I can't read that anywhere in anything you posted ???

I love my 29 3/4 on the wall... I always look at replicas and say.. "yeah right" to myself... I have been in enough boats with people, when we get done, in the bar they are talking about the fish they caught..... I swear sometimes, I must have been in a different boat ...???

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chomps

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JJ is right on. We have had this exact discussion while camping on the North side of Mille Lacs with two CO Officers checking our zip locks in our cooler. The only way way we got around to having 6 walleye (per person)in our possesion whether in the livewell, cooler or in the pan cooking was to show a bait or gas receipt from a surrounding lake or town, (in our case we ran to to a lake north for an afternoon and kept a couple walleye and perch) otherwise without proof anyone fish Mille Lacs exclusivly can not have more than 4 in possession per licensed person. MN couples and kids under 18 can have their own limit. Non res. if you have a license with your wife=one limit and if you have a kid with you under 18 or doesn't have their own license his/her fish count toward limit/possession. This was they way we understood the rules, and was verified when were were being searched.

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big G

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See that leaves so much to chance.... what if you didn't stop anywhere, to get bait or gas ??? What if your like me and just leave the receipt or toss it on the way out the door ??? Leaving a law so gray & trying to have CO's figure out how to enforce it, is not a good idea. Had you not had a receipt, they would have ticketed you ??? Sounds like a fishy fine to me...

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chomps

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they said it still would have been up to the DNR to prove those fillets didn't come from other waters. Geez stop and get a coffee or a Snickers and get a receipt, take a cell phone picture of you backing your boat into a different lake, it's really not that hard. Or just do as the law states only keep 4 walleye from Mille Lacs. I feel that there is too much confusion in the regulations, but each lake is managed differently and thus we better know the rules of the waters we fish.

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slipperybob

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I've heard, if a person really wants to contest the legitimacy of their fillets/catch, they can be DNA tested by request.

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big G

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That's what I am trying to do, learn. Should you really have to take a picture of yourself, fishing another lake for 2 walleyes ? Should you really have to pull the gang over, so you can get a receipt from to local gas station ??? This all really sounds rather dumb to me.... what is simple ? Lake regs and state regs... once you leave a lake, state regs take over. Simple and clear... I doubt they want a bunch of potential court cases over 2 walleyes... tha may or may not be in the Mille Lacs slot ...

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slipperybob

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So to keep it simple, then it's 4 in physical possession while on the water or cabin adjacent to water. That's the way I've been explained to many times by different CO's. If you bring two walleyes from a different lake and engage in fishing on Mille Laces, then you're should only be looking to obtain in physical possession 4.

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RetiredonOsakis

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Can you have 1 at the taxidermist shop in his freezer and go fish for another ???

big G




The fish is considered in your possession until the mount is physically received back from the taxidermist.


DaveB

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If you want to cheat, you will likely get away with it.

As sportsmen, we need to understand the spirit of the law and be stewards of the resources.

How does someone know my fish in the livewell on Pool 2 didnt come from the MN river just a few miles upriver where it is legal? Well, unless they saw me catch a fish and not release it, they wouldnt.

You probably dont need to stop at stop signs or obey speed limits when nobody is around either.


To the person that says they have to prove that you caught them on Mille Lacs? Um, not really. If you walk to your cabin on Mille w/ 4 in the freezer and 2 on a stringer, you will need to create a reasonable doubt. Their "proof" is the fish.


das_bass

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And this is written where ? I see no mention of Mille Lacs Lake Walleye Possession limit.. I see bag and daily limits referenced only. I know all about the 28" rule.... at what point does a 28" hanging on your wall, not become in your possession anymore ? I think it is when the filets are removed & eaten/destroyed, but am not sure. Can you have 1 at the taxidermist shop in his freezer and go fish for another ???

big G





Daily and possession limits are the same unless otherwise noted. Daily limit on for Mille Lacs walleyes is 4 fish, so the Possession limit for Mille Lacs walleye is also 4 fish.

Also note (straight from the DNR fishing regulations website):
The daily and possession limits include fish possessed by the person at all locations including such places as livewell, cold storage, at home, or at a resort. Daily limit is the number of fish an angler can take in one calendar day. Eating those fish or gifting them away on the same day does not allow an angler to possess additional fish taken in the same calendar day.

Also:
Lawfully taken fish may be transferred as a gift if accompanied by a receipt containing: name and address of the owner, name and address of recipient, date of transfer, description of the gift, and license number (DNR number or transaction number) under which the fish was taken. The receipt must remain with the gift. The recipient cannot possess more than the statewide possession limit.

Note that the person you give the fish to doesn't have to have a lisense, but needs to be in possession of your lisense number to legally have those fish.

That is what the law is, anyway. And remember the CO has a lot of discression when writting a ticket. You can always fight it later, but it is easiest just not to try to push the limit or otherwise annoy a CO if one asks questions.


big G

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Hello..... Jon ??? The fact that nobody can show it in writing, bothers me. A simple blurb, no person may possess, either in their bag, daily or otherwise, at any time, no more than 4 walleyes from Lake Mille Lacs..... that right there should be written... rather than obscure laws like "unless noted elsewhere"... why would you even put that in the sentence, unless it actually applied somewhere ??? In fact, if it does not apply to Mille Lacs and the like, where does it apply ??? I ask because I do not want to be over my limit. Quite honestly, I have gone home with over 8 walleyes between my wife and myself. It doesn't happen much, but it could and I would not know any better, because I haven't had the talk with a CO, I read the regs.


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das_bass

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The fact that nobody can show it in writing, bothers me. A simple blurb, no person may possess, either in their bag, daily or otherwise, at any time, no more than 4 walleyes from Lake Mille Lacs..... that right there should be written... rather than obscure laws like "unless noted elsewhere"... why would you even put that in the sentence, unless it actually applied somewhere ???




There are some exceptions to the daily limit being the same as the possetion limit. For example, this quote from the Fishing Regulations handbook:
"One exception would be the inland limit on yellow perch, which is 20 per day and 40 in possession."

For Mille Lacs, the regulations say:
"2010 Mille Lacs Regulations
(including tributaries to posted boundaries)
Walleye: Restrictions or changes will be posted at public access sites and on DNR Web site."

If you go to the DNR Web site, it says:
"Walleye: Release immediately all walleye 18.0" through 28.0"; Possession limit is 4, with only one over 28.0".

Effective Thursday, July 15: Release immediately all walleye 20.0" through 28.0"; Possession limit is 4, with only one over 28.0"."

So, although you have to dig a bit to find it, it does explictly state the possession limit for Mille Lacs walleye is 4.


big G

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das_bass.... that is exactly what I was looking for where is it exactly ??? I am guilty of not checking at the landings , as I go out of a private harbor. I also know ignorance of the law is no excuse... so that won't hold up either ...

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Jon Jordan

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http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/fish_wildlife/fisheries/regs/20100707_MilleLacsReg.pdf


-J.


chomps

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fish fry at Big G's he's also paying for the beer.

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big G

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fish fry at Big G's he's also paying for the beer.




We have had a few......with walleye, perch, sunfish, crappie (my fav) and a few too.... Jon's been there too Now I am hungry...

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Suzuki

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I've really changed the last few years and rarely keep fish. It suprises me this topic is this long and so many on this site are worried about taking home the maximum amount of fish instead of leaning towards catch and release. As a reformed meat hauler I assumed most others were changing their ways too?

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chomps

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I love fish, so does my family. Even if there are fish in the freezer will still buy some salt water fish at the store, and your point is thou exalted one?

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big G

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I've really changed the last few years and rarely keep fish. It suprises me this topic is this long and so many on this site are worried about taking home the maximum amount of fish instead of leaning towards catch and release. As a reformed meat hauler I assumed most others were changing their ways too?




Funny, but the way I read it, most of this thread is about people not wanting to "exceed" the limit & understand the law ? That's what I am doing and I don't think their is anything wrong with keeping a limit and eating them... I do think it is wrong to look down on people who follow the laws, because you choose to catch a fish for your enjoyment, release it and it may or may not survive ??? That would be waste to some... Congratulations on turning this into a fishing mortality thread.....again Geez.....

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das_bass

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Quote:

I've really changed the last few years and rarely keep fish. It suprises me this topic is this long and so many on this site are worried about taking home the maximum amount of fish instead of leaning towards catch and release. As a reformed meat hauler I assumed most others were changing their ways too?




If I fish for fun, I generally fish for bass. They tend to bite in nicer weather, and tend to be a bit easier to find and catch. If I am hankering for a fish-fry, then I turn to walleye. And my wife loves fresh fish, so we usually eat them before they hit the freezer. But there are occasions when I do freeze a few, and it's good to know what the laws are concerning that.

The current Fishing Regulation booklet is at:
web page

The DNR website with updated rules is at:
http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/fishing/millelacs.html


Timmy

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We eat a lot of fish - almost entirely walleye and winter pike. I will take my legal limit of walleyes each and every time I can - and not a speck of it gets wasted. I abide by the laws and just want to remain legal - while taking fish for the table. I don't feel wrong or guilty for that, and trust me, there have been one heck of a lot of limits that have crossed the gunnels of my boat.

T

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big G

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From the DNR.... glad we discussed this

Glen,



The daily and possession limit of Mille Lacs walleyes is 4. If they are in your freezer, they are in your possession. The signs, stickers, and DNR website all refer to the limit as a possession limit. This means that if you were in possession of 6 walleye from Mille Lacs in your freezer, you would be over limit. Page 9 of the regulation synopsis states Daily and possession limits are the same unless otherwise noted. Fish are in possession whether on hand, in cold storage, in transport, or elsewhere.



I hope this clears up your question.


big G

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Suzuki

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Geez guys. I wasnt really aiming at that target. My point was, hell I dont even know now? It certainly wasnt to rile folks up. I've gotten very protective of the waters because fishing success is so closely related to pressure and all lakes get it. Some more than others. I certainly dont practice C&R hunting......

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Wade B AKA: Ruger2506

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I certainly don't practice C&R hunting......



That's a whole different conversation. On a side note, it is a blast. Camera or gun, it's the stalk and outsmarting game that I enjoy. Pulling the trigger is just an incidental motion in the whole scheme of "hunting success".

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Timmy

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I certainly dont practice C&R hunting......





I do. It is called missing - and I practice it far too often!!

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Wade B AKA: Ruger2506

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I do. It is called missing - and I practice it far too often!!




That's how my buddy practices Catch and Release hunting as well.

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