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Season 3 - Episode 11. Open Water. Walleye. James Holst & Brad Juaire head for Rainy Lake for a hot August walleye bite.
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moreyes
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What rods where you using?
-------------------- Most of my money is spent on fishing, fishing tackle and boats, the rest is wasted......Thanks Kirt Hedquist
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James Holst
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I was using a St. Croix Tidemaster 7'6" MM. I believe in the vid I say I was using a 6'6" but that isn't accurate. It was the longer rod.
-------------------- James Holst - In-Depth Outdoors TV Host
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Ph. 507-271-0362
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hib
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Would it be correct to assume the treble hook on the spinner rigs are used solely as a trailer and the bait is hooked to the single hook? I fish these rigs regularly and also make my own but have not seen one set up like this before. Great tip.....10ft/1oz, 20ft/2oz, 30ft/3oz. As a rule I have used less weight and more line. Time for a change? I thank you James for another awesome show.
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James Holst
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On the larger shiners I was pinning that small treble right behind the dorsal fin. It made one heck of a difference in the hook up ratio. On the smaller minnows, once we started to run low on the good bait... the dorsal was a little too close to the head if you know what I mean. So in those instances the rear hook was left to dangle.
-------------------- James Holst - In-Depth Outdoors TV Host
IDA Guides Guide Service
Ph. 507-271-0362
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moreyes
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Is there anything that rod doesn't do? I am sure Dustin uses is it for pitching jigs also
-------------------- Most of my money is spent on fishing, fishing tackle and boats, the rest is wasted......Thanks Kirt Hedquist
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FishnCanuck
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The cameraman must have had great balance sitting on the motor housing for some of those shots
How big was the gator?
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WaleyeCraig
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have you ever went fishing on Lake Winnibigoshish.
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Chris Granrud
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Nice show boys!!! You sure can tell those walleyes coming off the main lake humps as they have such black backs!! Beauties!! Great information in regards to boat control with the drift socks. As you boys figured out Boat control is vital to success on Rainy Lake. Tons of great structure!! Proper utilization of the Lakemaster 1ft contour chip not only helps keep motors intact, but is crucial to getting spot on. The other thing that must be mentioned is with the conditions you were fishing in "High Winds" Spinner rigs may very well be the most effective way to boat those fish. Great show Brad and James!! Beautiful Pike also!! Looked to be a good 14-15lbs?? Nice Bonus Huh!! Never gets old!! I am plenty excited to be chasing those Rainy Lake Gators after ice out!!
-------------------- Chris Granrud - RainyDaze Guide Service
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Chris Granrud
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Hi Craig,
Welcome to IDO!! I have fished Winnie some. Used to chase big perch their in the winter time. I have a relative that fishes it a ton!! He is a very good stick, and I believe he does some guiding part-time. He utilizes spinner rigs very similiar to how James and Brad used them on this last shoot!!
-------------------- Chris Granrud - RainyDaze Guide Service
World-Class Walleye, Crappie, Pike & Smallmouth Bass Fishing!
Visit RainyDaze Guide Service to book your next adventure!
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Steve Vick
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joe9929
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Does that presantation work on most lakes
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James Holst
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Does that presantation work on most lakes
Absolutely. The spinner rig / livebait combo is a staple on most bodies of water once water temps start to warm from the early season lows in the 40's typically found at opener. You can use a spinner rig and minnow early in the walleye season but do be prepared to use a smaller spinner and to slow your trolling speeds down to a crawl. Later in the season as temps warm into the fifties or so you can upsize the size of the spinner blade, bump up your speed, and start incorporating leeches and crawlers. If you're not fishing this technique yet on your favorite walleye water... you should be. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at how effective it is.
-------------------- James Holst - In-Depth Outdoors TV Host
IDA Guides Guide Service
Ph. 507-271-0362
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jc3363
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I'm heading to Rainy the end of August and would like to get a guide for a half day, anyone you would recomend?
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James Holst
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STEVE LUJAN
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Great show,James. I use bottom bouncer's alot and you said the 1,2,and 3 ounce weight was to keep it up off the rocks,so you don't get a snag.does this hold true trolling over sand,or i use just enough weight to get to the bottom.
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James Holst
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Great show,James. I use bottom bouncer's alot and you said the 1,2,and 3 ounce weight was to keep it up off the rocks,so you don't get a snag.does this hold true trolling over sand,or i use just enough weight to get to the bottom.
Hi Steve
The guidelines of 1 Oz = 10', 2 Oz = 20' and 3 Oz = 30' have always served me quite well. Guys tend to shy away from the heavier weights but it is very important to run enough weight to keep the line angle at or less than 45 degrees. Even on sand. I hope this helps. Spinners behind bouncers is an incredibly effective technique!
-------------------- James Holst - In-Depth Outdoors TV Host
IDA Guides Guide Service
Ph. 507-271-0362
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Snow_Dog
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James,
Great show! For me, the timing was excellent because I will be houseboating on Namakan in mid July this year. I think I should find very similar patterns as Namakan and Rainy have similar structure and water clarity.
Just had a couple questions for you:
How long were the spinners you tied? Looked to me like you were running 3-4 feet between the weight and spinner. How did you decide that was the proper length or is that kind of standard for you when you fish spinner rigs like this?
I do a lot of fishing in Quetico where there's no live bait allowed. Seems to me such a rig might also be effective with a Gulp crawler, a 6-7" PowerBait curly-tail worm, or maybe even a swimbait. That make any sense to you?
Finally, what was it that made you decide to troll bottom bouncers with spinner rigs instead of some other presentation? I'm not trying to second-guess, just curious as to how you arrived at your decision. Faced with similar conditions, my first instinct would have been trolling cranks starting in 20-25 FOW, and fine-tuning from there. Admittedly, I probably like trolling cranks too much...
Again, great show! That got me stoked for my trip this summer for sure!
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James Holst
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James,
Great show!
Thanks! Brad and I had a blast on this shoot and I'm putting some ground work together on an IDO houseboat GTG this summer! I really hope I can pull it all together as those houseboat trips look incredible.
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How long were the spinners you tied? Looked to me like you were running 3-4 feet between the weight and spinner.
I was running a little over 4' on the leader.
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How did you decide that was the proper length or is that kind of standard for you when you fish spinner rigs like this?
I did a little trial and error to come up with the right dropper and leader lengths. When the leaders were a little long we'd pick up moss off the rocks. When we'd see that, we'd shorten a bit.
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I do a lot of fishing in Quetico where there's no live bait allowed. Seems to me such a rig might also be effective with a Gulp crawler, a 6-7" PowerBait curly-tail worm, or maybe even a swimbait. That make any sense to you?
Absolutely. More and more anglers are using power bait or unscented plastics behind spinners with great success. Don't hesitate to try this!
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Finally, what was it that made you decide to troll bottom bouncers with spinner rigs instead of some other presentation? I'm not trying to second-guess, just curious as to how you arrived at your decision. Faced with similar conditions, my first instinct would have been trolling cranks starting in 20-25 FOW, and fine-tuning from there. Admittedly, I probably like trolling cranks too much...
The reefs we were fishing would be very difficult to troll given the short runs and the very steep breaks. Before we'd really get going with the cranks it would be time to reel them up and turn around for another pass. If we had been fishing a larger reef with a more consistent edge we definitely would have given it a shot. 
Let us know how you do on your summer trip.
-------------------- James Holst - In-Depth Outdoors TV Host
IDA Guides Guide Service
Ph. 507-271-0362
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podzy
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James Holst
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Nice video, I did not know this method, but what depth, do you use?
thank you
In this video we were fishing 26' - 35' deep using 3 oz bottom bouncers and hand tied spinners. Shiner minnows worked much better than night crawlers or leeches.
Dans cette vidéo nous pêchions 26 - 35 pieds utilisant profondément 3 once videurs inférieurs et transmettent des fileurs liés. Les vairons d'oeil poché ont travaillé beaucoup de mieux que du soir les tortues ou les sangsues.
-------------------- James Holst - In-Depth Outdoors TV Host
IDA Guides Guide Service
Ph. 507-271-0362
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podzy
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Great video, as always. I learn a lot from you guys. I do tie all of my own spinner baits, live bait rigs, whatever you want to call them. I had bought the components in bulk many years ago. Now I can't seem to find anyone who sells the bulk blades, hooks, etc. Have any ideas where a guy can go to get the bulk stuff? Cabelas used to be good, but no more. Everything in 25 pieces or less. Thanks for any help.
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James Holst
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Great video, as always. I learn a lot from you guys. I do tie all of my own spinner baits, live bait rigs, whatever you want to call them. I had bought the components in bulk many years ago. Now I can't seem to find anyone who sells the bulk blades, hooks, etc. Have any ideas where a guy can go to get the bulk stuff? Cabelas used to be good, but no more. Everything in 25 pieces or less. Thanks for any help.
If you want tackle in bulk, Hagens is a good source.
Download their catalog here >>> http://www.hagensfish.com/media/documents/catalog.pdf
With Hagens you will have to order 500 pieces at a minimum to get their pricing.
If smaller quantities are what you're after at good prices, try Janns Netcraft >>> http://www.jannsnetcraft.com/colorado-spinner-blades/
Between those two you should be able to find most anything you want in the quantities you need to set yourself up with years worth of hand tied rigs.
-------------------- James Holst - In-Depth Outdoors TV Host
IDA Guides Guide Service
Ph. 507-271-0362
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Dylan Gravenhof
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Great show guys!!
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James Holst
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Thanks! For anyone heading up to Rainy in the coming weeks the spinner bite should be on! I know the fish have set up on the reefs so this is prime time to get in on a great spinner bite on a beautiful body of water.
-------------------- James Holst - In-Depth Outdoors TV Host
IDA Guides Guide Service
Ph. 507-271-0362
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Dylan Gravenhof
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Thanks! For anyone heading up to Rainy in the coming weeks the spinner bite should be on! I know the fish have set up on the reefs so this is prime time to get in on a great spinner bite on a beautiful body of water.
unfortunately.. i have never been there.. gotta talk the dad into taking a trip up there sometime!!
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