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Finesse Techniques for Heavily Pressured Crappies

Video Details: Season 5 - Episode 2. Ice Fishing. Crappies. In-Depth Outdoors host James Holst & Tanner Wildes fish a heavily pressured Hayward WI area lake where sight fishing and finesse techniques are a must to consistently ice slabs accustomed to relentless fishing pressure.

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James HolstAdministrator
For anyone interested in more info on the tip downs, here’s a link to a previous thread on IDO with design ideas and even a couple suggestions on where to buy them.

Tip Downs

I’ve received some Private Messages about where to buy them, etc., and I really don’t have any good info outside of the link above. I’ll reach out to Tanner to see if he has any insight for us.

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James Holst
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James HolstAdministrator
Targaman found these online >>> http://www.tipdown.com/

If anyone else knows of a source or two for tip downs don’t hesitate to post those links on this thread.

Thanks all.

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raapala
There are many different kinds of tip-downs out there actually. You can find people selling them on craigslist, that tipdown website and I have found a couple types for sale at Scheels in Eau Claire.

The type Tanner is fishing with are not that difficult to make and fold up very nicely as far as packing. They fit great in a rod bag with the schooley poles used with the tip-down. There are some wing-nuts on the bottom to deploy and tighten and then loosen and store. For windy days, I think the ones Tanner are using are pretty stable and work well then also. I have made some out of a 1x4 and 1x6 with a hinge, pretty simple also. These also fold up nicely for storage.

Tim
James HolstAdministrator
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The type Tanner is fishing with are not that difficult to make and fold up very nicely as far as packing. They fit great in a rod bag with the schooley poles used with the tip-down. There are some wing-nuts on the bottom to deploy and tighten and then loosen and store. For windy days, I think the ones Tanner are using are pretty stable and work well then also. I have made some out of a 1x4 and 1x6 with a hinge, pretty simple also. These also fold up nicely for storage.

Tim




I would think a guy could make up a batch in his garage for very little money and a half day on the weekend. Finding those inexpensive glass rods might be the bigger challenge but then Tanner mentioned that once you get up in his neck of the woods around Hayward... they’re easy to find.

Make ‘em or buy ‘em I was impressed with how well they worked.

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James Holst
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LundProAngler
Fleet Farm carries them and are $21.99.

http://www.fleetfarm.com/catalog/product_detail/fishing/ice-fishing/rod-reel-combos/sure-strike-tip-down

Edited by LundProAngler (11/16/10 09:09 AM)
James HolstAdministrator
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Fleet Farm carries them and are around $30.
I believe they are home made in Wisconsin.




I should have guess that. Fleetfarm, AKA The Man's Mall, has everything. Or at least all the good stuff.

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James Holst
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IceNutz
The ones made at Fleet Farm are made in Merill, Wi and are exact copies of the ones we have been making for over 10 years. Here is a link to photos of the ones that we make. I also sell the frames or a complete kit with the rod for less than the FF ones. Guess I should of patented them years ago. If anyone would like instructions on building and using them email me at cmherrmann@charter.net or feel free to call me at 715-379-2376.

By the way great video, but you need to turn those frames around, it works well to have the base next to the hole instead of facing away. That way if you have it set correctly the tip of the pole will hit the wooden base and make a nice tick sound to alert you if your not looking directly at it and there is not a lot of noise in the area. You can also wrap some solder around the end of the rod to help balance it properly if the wind is bad or you drilled the hole for the balance wire off a little.



http://s947.photobucket.com/albums/ad317/cmherrmann/Tip%20downs/

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Bob Bowman
Great video

It's like watching In Living Color

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Bob Bowman
James HolstAdministrator
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Fleet Farm carries them and are $21.99.

http://www.fleetfarm.com/catalog/product_detail/fishing/ice-fishing/rod-reel-combos/sure-strike-tip-down




That seems like a great price. Thanks for hunting that down for us.

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James Holst
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Pat Howard
Wow great show. Very informative

I may just dream about ice fishing tonite

Did you need sunblock ??

Man what a day on the ice

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James HolstAdministrator
Did we NEED sunblock? Yes. Did we have sunblock? No. I'm horrible about forgetting the sunscreen that time of year. Some of my worst burns have been out on the ice late season. I know I was hurting for days the spring before this show when I filmed with Grow on Leech Lake. It was like standing on a mirror.

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James Holst
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Joel NelsonAdministrator
Great show gentlemen!!! Funny how people's perspectives on panfish can change when you're talking fish of that size/quality.

As for the bite that day, it's obvious that these tip-downs excel in light-bite, neutral to negative fish situations, but what about other finesse methods? In many natural lakes with weeds, good clarity, and some depth, I've had good luck losing the flasher and going to the camera. Enough trial and error usually yields a winning jigging, lift/fall, or "natural" motion that can be applied to most fish in the school. Were these fish camera-shy?

Joel

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James HolstAdministrator
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Were these fish camera-shy?

Joel




Yup, they were. They were 'everything' shy. We have several hours of underwater footage filmed during the peak of the bite and we don't have a single clear shot of a crappie on camera. These fish were noise, shadow, aggressive jigging and camera shy to a ridiculous degree. We actually noticed that we had to stay out of the spread of tip-downs to get bit. When we would walk around fishing the holes the sound of our foot falls would spook fish and the presence of the camera head in the water completely freaked the fish out. Is this normal? Not at all. I can recall endless bites on different days and bodies of water when the cameras were the key to knowing when to set the hook. But these fish were special in that the intense fishing pressure had them on edge at all times. In this shallow water it was best to set the tip downs and back out from the spread to allow the area to quiet down which would allow the fish to settle out a little bit. We also caught fish jigging but we had to sit very, very still and allow the fish to come to us. Any quick movement or the smallest sound... the fish would bolt.

This bite was an awesome learning experience on how to approach heavily pressured fish.
Joel Ballweg
It was another very good show. I really have only one problem with them so far.
They are making it increasing obvious that most of my ice fishing equipment is outdated & archaic. All though I'm nowhere near as serious about my ice fishing as I am about open water fishing, I still don't enjoy being repeatedly out fished by nearby tech savy, up-to-date & serious ice fishermen.
Looks like I'm going to have to make some up grades in my equipment this year.

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JOEL BALLWEG - IDO FIELD STAFF
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Ballweg's Guide Sevice, LLC
Lake Wisconsin Fishing.com


Mike W
Ill second that Joel. Try going to a Wednesday night seminar at Thorne brothers and seeing first hand what the latest stuff is these young guys are hitting the ice with. Its a eye opener.

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dwbeals
Those are some giant crappies. looked like a blast! Those tip-downs were slick, gonna have to try those this winter.
bigpike
Nice show with some interesting concepts!
all outdoorsman
These have got to be the best ice fishing shows out there i cant find anything that compares to them. i find myself checking daily for a new one to pop up ready tobe watched,keep up the GREAT work guys.
James HolstAdministrator
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These have got to be the best ice fishing shows out there i cant find anything that compares to them. i find myself checking daily for a new one to pop up ready tobe watched,keep up the GREAT work guys.




Thanks for the kind words and feedback. We'll have new shows coming in a couple weeks once we can safely get out on the ice. Plan on at least 4 new ones and then we slide into our open water shows...

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James Holst
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