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Jon Jordan

Water Pump & Impeller Replacement.


Finally got around to doing one job that I wanted to get taken care of last fall. Change out the water pump and impeller on my 2000 Mercury 150HP XR-6. I see the question pop up here every once in a while asking how hard of a job is it to do. My reply is – if you can change out the front brakes on your car, you can do a water pump/impeller. My owners manual recommends changing the impeller every 100 hours or once a year. I have been doing mine every other season of use and don’t feel I’m stretching my luck.

Here is a before shot:


First thing to do is go to you dealer and purchase a water pump – impeller kit. Make sure to get the entire kit with all of the gaskets, not just a new impeller. It’s my opinion that you may as well change out all of the parts rather than just swapping out the impeller. Why not do it right since you have the lower unit torn down anyway? My kit cost about $40.

Once you have the kit which contains the pump housing, gaskets, pilot tube and impeller gather the necessary tools. All you need is basic tools such as a socket set, screw driver, rubber mallet and of course a cold one! It’s also a huge plus to have an extra set of hands. In my case I had Gary Wellman over to tackle this 6-pack job.



First and most important – Put the motor in FORWARD gear.


Next, remove the zinc alloy disk and expose one of the retaining bolts under the cavitation plate. Working around the lower unit, remove all of the bolds being careful not to let the lower unit drop to the floor. (This is where a second set of hands help out) Once all of the bolts are removed, a few taps with the rubber mallet will separate the lower unit. You may need to separate the water line that operates your speedometer at this point too.





A bench vice is very helpful to hold the lower unit in place while you remove and replace the parts.



Start out by removing the 4 nuts that hold the pump housing in place.



Apply firm upward pressure until the pump housing separates. Slide the pump housing and impeller up and off of the drive shaft.



Here is a look at the old pump housing and impeller.






Old and New impeller.

Next, remove the gaskets and keep them in order so you can use them as a guide when replacing the new gaskets. My pump has 3 gaskets.







Replace the new gaskets in the exact order and configuration as the old one’s were removed.







Note the location of the retaining key for the impeller. Slide the new impeller on to the drive shaft and over the retaining key. This will prevent the impeller from spinning on the drive shaft.







Next, slide the new pump housing down the drive shaft and while turning the drive shaft in a CLOCKWISE direction, press the pump housing over the new impeller.



Replace the 4 nuts securing the pump housing in place.



Next, place the new pilot tube in the pump housing, and slide the new “Slinger” gasket down the drive shaft sealing up the water pump.

Now, with your extra set of hands, line everything up and slide the lower unit back onto the motor. You may find that you will need to turn the drive shaft slightly in a clockwise direction to line up the splines to the power head. Make sure your shift linkages are in place and reconnect the speedometer line.

Replace all of the bolts and tighten everything up. Drop the motor out of gear. This will tell you if you have the shift linkages hooked up correctly. The prop should spin freely at this point.

A final touch up of new paint and she is good as new.



When you first run the motor, check for water flow out of the pee hole. You are done! Now finish off that beer!


gutpile

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jon great pic's and info thanks .
steveo you might want to send this to briank for the next time he helps you

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Chico Diablo

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Thanks for the reminder, I need to get that done myself and usually a six pack is not enough

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Suzuki

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When we doing my Suzuki John? I think it will take a 12-pack though.

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Chuckles

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Jon - how much time did it take you start to finish? Curious - if it doesn't take too long I may attempt it on my 25 horse soon. Chuckles

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Castaway

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I just did my 115 and 9.9 yamy last night also.I was really pushing my luck as they are both 1994 and had the original equiptment.I was realy surprised that the 115 impeller although stiff and a little wear wasnt that bad and the 9.9 looked like it didnt even need to be changed.One reason for this is I absolutly never start the engine out of water.I only changed the impellars as the other parts of the housing were fine.A couple things will ruin the housing overheating and sucking up sand threw the impeller.You will be able to tell if they need to be replaced.Some motors like my 9.9 require disconecting the shift linkage also.Each motor took about an hour.Now I should be good till 2015.

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Lip Ripper

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Great Post John. I was wondering if I could tackle the job, now I think I can! At least that is half the battle. I like all the pics, you know us guys, we like the visuals !

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Lip Ripper (aka Rob Stenger)



TBarrette

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Excellent post. Really like the part comparing it to a brake job - I paid to have mine done and thanks to you taking the time for pictures and step by step instructions I know I can do it next time. I probably won't wait as long to change it either. Thanks again Jon.

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Gianni

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It took me about an hour on my merc 50. To be honest, it was probably a lot easier than Jon's 150 just due to the weight of the lower end on his.

For the most part, I used the same tools as he did - Leinies longnecks.


Mike W

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So what does a worn impellor look like. Took mine apart last year just for the heck of it and didnt see any nicks, gouges or wear on the impellor so just put it back in. On my 25hp honda this was about a 30 minute job. Pretty simple.

Putting the motor in Forward is a very important from what I have seen. Not much to worry about with the honda since it is exposed and there is just a rod coupling and a back up nut holding it together. Tightening up the bolts with out the linkage allined can be bad. Broken housings, linkage pushed up in the motor. Uck. It gets bad when a simple job goes wrong.

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Sliderfishn

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Quote:

So what does a worn impellor look like. Took mine apart last year just for the heck of it and didnt see any nicks, gouges or wear on the impellor so just put it back in.




I look for nicks, gouges and wear also but the main two things that I look for is:

1: amount of time since last change

2: The impeller will get dry, hard and brittle

I change my little motor impeller every other year. Just to be on the safe side since it is fast and cheap. Usually when they get as curved as Jons I think that it is time.

Great job Jon

Ron

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Sgt. Rock

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For those of you who paid a shop to have it done what was the cost?? That will give us DYI guys a better feel for savings. Great series of pics and description Jon.

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Dave G

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What happens if I don’t change the impeller and it goes bad? I would expect the heat sensor to send a signal to the engine electronics which would in turn put the motor into “slow mode” so it would not over heat. So I slowly limp home. If no harm is done to the motor, then why not wait until it goes bad? I guess if you have a big trip planned then it may be nice to have it done as preventative maintenance. For the local fishing that I typically do, I guess I would just lose a day of fishing. Am I missing something here?

Sliderfishn

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Some older models do not have a temp sensor and if you are not looking at the water flow from the motor then you can blow or burn up the motor. Plus I would rather change it now then when I am supposed to be fishing.
I do know alot of people that wait till it goes out and then fix or take it in, personal choice.
Ron

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Wade Kuehl

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Nice job Jon! We'll keep this one up top for a while to give folks a chance to benefit from your efforts.

Jon Jordan

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Hey guys, thanks!

To answer a few of the questions.

A dealer will usually charge an hour of labor plus parts. Labor is going at $80 and hour. (Some place more, some less)

Dave, as mentioned, the impeller will become cracked, worn or brittle. Also, if you suck sand up in the impeller, you will see scratches and gouges in the pump housing. Also, in one of the top shots, you will see one of the gaskets had a section worn out. I think we all know someone with a motor 4, 5, or even 10 years old who has never had it serviced. I guess for me it's just cheap insurance!

-J.


mwal

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Jon,

Thanks for the informative posts. The pictures help a great deal. I may try it myself next time.

Mwal


Crossin Eyes

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If anyone in the Eau Claire, WI area would like to be my "extra set of hands" I'll be glad to supply the sockets, screwdrivers and longnecks. Heck, bring your boat down and we'll do them both! Send me a PM if interested.

Mike


Suzuki

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Mike,
I would be glad to help you. I did mine last night and an extra set of hands would have been nice.

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smokercraft

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very informative and nicely done, I'm sure you saved quite a few people alot of money!
Thanks


Crossin Eyes

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I'll take you up on that Mike. Name the time and place and I'll be there!
Thanks for your assistance.


Suzuki

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I should mention that my 3-year old impeller was in fine condition but it's one of those things you might as well replace if your going to take the time to look at it.

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3WAY

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i think you are a life saver guy. you sure got my attention, i don't remember mine being changed ever, course maybe i forgot too. i have 400 hours on my efi 150 merc, bought in the fall of 94. i called starks right away which is where i bought it, the parts guy told me my manual says every 300hours, which still seems way too many. i told him i am 100 over that, so i ordered the kit monday and it was here tues before noon. i can't get it changed out until after the 14th. now i'm afraid to use it till i get it replaced. though i have never seen any circumstances saying to change me. i do know my luck though i personally owe you one , thankyou

Steve DeZurik

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Excellent post Jon!
I have tackled several of these in the past years and must say that its a good project for someone that has never done one before. Save yourself some monay from a dealer doing, especially when they charge $60-$90/hr?

Jon,
We should take that "How To" post and put it into its own forum and start a library of these kind of boat maintenance projects! I could see it being real useful for everyone here!


Iowa_Josh

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Quote:

What happens if I don’t change the impeller and it goes bad? I would expect the heat sensor to send a signal to the engine electronics which would in turn put the motor into “slow mode” so it would not over heat. So I slowly limp home. If no harm is done to the motor, then why not wait until it goes bad? I guess if you have a big trip planned then it may be nice to have it done as preventative maintenance. For the local fishing that I typically do, I guess I would just lose a day of fishing. Am I missing something here?




Dave, there is no "limping home" when the pump goes out. It will overheat at idle or revved up. I don't know how long it takes them to overheat. But in one minute they get pretty hot. Two minutes? Five? Something will start to give.


TBarrette

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I paid $100 to have it changed on my 60 hp Merc 2 stroke in early December 2003. It would have cost more if it was done during a more busy time of year.

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Wade Kuehl

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Thought I'd break this one out again in case anyone plans to do a little wrench work this fall...

Thanks again for the effort here Jon!


troutfisher

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Great post you should be writing manuals you can actually under stand yours

Big Dog ia

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Man that was a great play by play, nice thread Jon! I need to do that to my 175 rude. Gotta love pics with instructions!! My boss let his pump go too long... now he is headed to Okoboji next week as a non boater!


Edited by Big Dog ia (09/17/05 03:14 PM)


Jon Jordan

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TTT for Lip Ripper

Wade Kuehl

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JJ, One of my all-time favorite posts here at IDA!

Lip Ripper

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Thanks JJ

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Steve DeZurik

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Quote:

JJ, One of my all-time favorite posts here at IDA!




I agree Wade!
I referred to this post late last summer for work on my Merc 25 hp. Thanks again Jon, it was very helpful.
In this case, pictures made the difference in me getting the impellar pump replaced properly in a timely manner.


Gary

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I think Jon should do it again, so I can drink his beer again!!!!!

Guys;
This is as easy as changing brake pads or packing wheel bearings........Once you do it, you'll understand how easy it is!!!

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Jon Jordan

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Bump one more time. Good time of year to get this job done!

-J.


fireline

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Do you make appointments JJ ??? I guess for me I would have to be with someone like you that done it a few times to make sure I do it right . That's just me . Thanks Jon for the post .

Larry Haugh

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Great post Mate!
I just did mine. Probably would have gone a little quicker with a engine manual and extra set of hands. But your explanations and pictures were more than enough. (given that I hadnt ever had a chance to do this type of Maint on a boat motor, I'm pleased with the outcome.)
thanks
Larry

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Xplorer

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Very timely, I had called last week and made sure that the dealer had a kit in stock for my 2000 90hp Honda. I just hit the 300 hour mark, so its time for a new one.
Has anyone that's done a honda found any differences in the dis-assembly than what is shown here (excellent demo by the way)?? My only other question.....is a 12'er of kokanee a suitable substitute for the Leinie's?

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DanH

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I want to thank the author again.

Tonight I followed this for the second successful time. Can't seem to remember which way to turn the drive shaft when pushing the cup onto the impeller.


big G

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Xplorer, where do you get Kokanee ? I had that on my last Canada fishing trip, but haven't ever seen it in the states.

big g

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DanK

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Thanks for the post Jon, this is great. I can't wait to do this on my motor.

SAY TK

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Excellent pic's!!

Jim W.

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Your pictures and procedures were very helpful. Now I have some questions about the reinstall procedures: 1) Is the gear connection next to the speedometer self aligning or do I need to turn it to align the splines? 2) Once everything is in place, how do you get the lower unit to mate with the shaft body (housing between the power head and the lower unit)? I can get the lower unit up to the housing but cannot get the last 3/4 to 1 inch to close. When I took the unit apart I had to gently pry the lower unit off the shaft housing. 3) I didn't follow the directions and took the lower unit off without the shifter in forward. How (can?) do I recitify this during reassembly?

Thank you for your help,

Jim W.


Jon Jordan

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Jim,

First, let’s start out with question #2. You should be able to turn the shaft clockwise to align the splines with the base of the motor head. Another option would be to turn the flywheel. If you elect to turn the flywheel, make sure you pull the kill switch. Once the splines are aligned, the lower unit should slide right up into place.

For #1 and #3. Typically, if the motor was put into gear, the shift linkage will also slide right back into place. I’ll assume you left it in neutral and did not change the gear setting on the lower unit. (In other words, you did not put the lower unit into gear while off the motor.) If that is the case, slide it back together and keep your fingers crossed. Now, the prop should be spinning free. (out of gear), and shifter in Neutral. Put the motor in forward, that should lock the prop in gear. Again, as long as the lower unit was not put in gear while off, you should be ok. If it was, then you may have a problem. Usually what happens is when you put the shifter in forward, the motor goes in reverse and visa-versa. If that is the case, drop the lower unit, put the lower unit in forward gear, put the shifter in forward gear and reassemble.

Good Luck.

-J.


Jim W.

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Jon,

Thanks for the response. First, thankfully(?) I didn't shift the lower unit while it was off. It was in neutral when taken off and still is, the prop spins freely. Next, when we pulled the lower unit off we had to gently force (pry) the unit off the motor. Now when we get the lower unit up to the point where the bolts align into their holes, and the shift linkage almost touches, we can't get it any farther. It doesn't seem to be the shift linkage stopping it because we can still move them apart. The water tube guide sleeve is over the water tube. There is resistance as though something is keeping the lower unit from sliding into place, we have applied a fair amount of effort to force it together. We are left with about a one inch gap. Is there something else we are missing that needs to be aligned or is this a result of the drive shaft splines not aligned?

Jim


Jon Jordan

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Most likely it's the splines. There is zero tolerance in that connection. The splines need to align perfectly and will slide in snug. Remeber, that shaft spins at 6,000 rpm's with a lot of torque!!

-J.


Jim W.

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Jon, you were correct. By bringing the lower unit up until where we had resistance and wiggling the flywheel the splines slipped in and everything went together nicely. The new water pump is working fine and the motor runs like it always has.

Thanks again for the help, first time for that job for me.

Jim W.


Jon Jordan

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First time is always the hardest!

Good to hear you got 'er done.

-J.


Boone

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Jon,

Have you ever changed the seals that go on the drive shaft and keep water out of lower unit oil? I'm getting a small amount of water in the lower unit oil and I've taken the prop off and that seal looks good. I can't see any fishing line or anything that looks bad. I've also installed new plastic washers under the fill and vent screws so they should be good. My only other guess is that perhaps the seal(s) on the drive shaft are leaking. Are they difficult to change or do you have any other ideas where the water could be coming from?

Thanks,

Boone


Jon Jordan

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I’ve never done seals. I believe you need some specialized tools for the job. First step would be to take the motor in and get a leak down test done. That test will identify where your problem is.

-J.


fish any time

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Just sending this one to the top.

I am guessing I am not the only one thinking of getting this task completed this spring.

I'll be doing mine one of the 1st weekends in March.


Stymie

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Help can't see the pictures

Jon Jordan

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My Web Server is off line right now. Actually this is day 2 of the outage. When the server comes back up all of my web links will be restored, including my pic in my profile!

-J.


DSE

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Hi Jon, I found this forum looking for info on how to change my water pump impeller on my 50 Yamaha jet. Will it be the same for my jet? Just drop the jet housing from the bottom of my motor? Thanks, the info you posted with the pics was great! Just a little neveous about trying this the first time.

Doug Eiswerth


Jon Jordan

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Not sure how a jet cooling system is set up.

-J.


Liar

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Just wanted to say thanks Jon
Got done with my 40 hp merc. First time for me. Everything was smooth. The splines took a litle bit, the Mrs. help with that.
Can you post the same type of pictorial for catching walleyes on pool 2

Dan


Wade Kuehl

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To the top for Ben...

Ben Garver

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Thanks Wade! Looks like I can handle it!

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walleye wisdom

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This thread should be made a sticky, or maybe start a repair forum and make it a sticky there?

Xena

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I know this thread is old but it's a good one.
Recently did a complete water pump kit in my
87' Mariner 50HP for the first time after
owning this boat for 5 years.
Found this thread after the job was done, but
didn't encounter any problems other than needing
my brother to help me re-install the LU.

Old impeller showed considerable wear and distortion,
as well as one paddle (under my index finger) almost broken off.
I know this thread will help other first timers learn
and save some cash so I'm giving it a bump.


Novist

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I am having issues in replacing the water pump in my 30(EL) hp Mariner outboard for my Pontoon. I hav two issues 1) how do I disconnect the waterline running paralel to the shaft so I can remove and replace the water pump? I removed the 4 bolts that held the lower unit in place and can see the water pump but it could not be completely removed due to the water tube. 2) I am having difficulty in getting the shaft back in when my attemps to remove it failed. It is still hanging out about 5 inches from where it should be to fasten it in with the four bolts. I have rotated the prop ever so slightly to aligh the spines on the shaft but it is not going back in. What am I doing wrong? I had placed the speed control in forward before starting (and have not touched it since). I don't seem to be able to to get it realigned, possibly the metal water tube (mentiod above)is part of the problem? Can anyone help this novist out.

Matt Cat

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Quote:

I’ll assume you left it in neutral and did not change the gear setting on the lower unit.





Hello, I just followed your guide which also was my first time, installation went fine.

Problem is that we had Control Box in FORWARD
Well, when the lower unit was off, my helping hands accidently switched the lower unit into reverse. We try putting it back into Forward but only goes to neutral or reverse? Seems that way. We think when we get it into FORWARD and it like "pops" out as hooking the lower unit back on. HELP!

Thanks,


Jon Jordan

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I'd try turning the drive shaft clockwise while turning the shift linkage to forward....all one motion. Rmember, when the motor is running, that shaft is always spinning. You need to pop that clutch dog in with a littl force!

-J.


Kooty

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Thought maybe this should come back to the top as I'll be performing this task myself this weekend. Likely a GL session for anyone in the NW metro on Sat or Sunday afternoon.

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Rick N

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Jon,

So I may not have followed the instructions to the T, I stumbled on to your thread a little after the game started. I did everything pretty much just as you explained it, but I spun the impeller into the housing before putting the two of them onto the shaft. It was harder lining up the little piece that holds the impeller into place, but I was able to do that. Will this cause me any long term heartburn?

Question 2, the gasket they sold me at the marina was slightly smaller than the one I was replacing. It looked that the impeller may rub on the top gasket. Is this a show stopper?


Jon Jordan

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Rick,

As long as you got the retainer in place, you should be good to go there. On the gasket....I'd have to say you are best off with the right size.

-J.


Michael H

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Awesome instructions. I did have a problem reinstalling the lower unit and I wanted to see if anyone has ever had something similar happen. I thought I was having problems getting the splines aligned but further inspection revealed something blocking the drive shaft from going all the way in. It looked like a brass bushing and that had slid out of place and was blocking the top of the drive shaft at the motor. I took a long wire and centered the piece and was able to reinstall the lower unit.

Has anyone else seen this before or have any thoughts on what this might be? Everything appears to be working fine but I am concered because I would never have expected something to be free floating in that area.

Thanks - Mike


HHZHSIMS

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Itried removing the lower unit on my '86 25hp. I can get it down about 4 inches, but it seems there is a rod at the forward part of the unit that is attached somewhere. I can't get the lower unit all the way off. Is there a trick? It seems to be the shifter shaft and goes up through the botton of the cowl and attaches to a swivel point on the forward port side of the motor. pics would be helpful if you have them. I dont want to force anything and break it.

thanks!

Edited by HHZHSIMS (03/25/10 08:45 PM)


Mike W

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My 25hp honda has a shift rod to. There is a threaded coupling on the rod that comes apart. Other wise I have see some motors where you need to find the top of the rod and disconnect it there.

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bassn7

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on my OMC motors I had there was bolt under the carbs you had too remove to release the shift rod 5/16 socket too remove bolt if I remember correctly
Stan


HHZHSIMS

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All done. That was the right location for the shifter disconnect. What was weird though...No water through the pee hole, there was no debris of any kind in the impellor housing. The impeller was still intact. If I blew air through the water intake, I would get air at the exhaust on the back of the lower unit. but not out of the pee hole. If I put air in through the pee hole I would get air at the exhaust vent and at the water inlet. I restarted (with water running) and had water at the pee hole. strange. There was no debris that came out of anywhere. I'm wondering if the cooling system just needed to be burped or primed...I dunno. But I now have a steady stream of water, and a new impeller. and it was only $18 and 40 minutes time.

I'm happy.


Sliderfishn

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Glad to hear that everything worked out

Ron

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Jon Jordan

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Could have been a stuck or sticky thermostat. If it got stuck closed, no water would come out the pee hole.

PS. This post is almost 5 years old!!! Wow time flies. I had all of the pics in the original post loaded up on webserver from my prior ISP. They finally switched that accout off. I may need to re-do this as an article or video or both.

-J.


chomps

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I know I've used this post JJ and I appreciate the great instructions, I'm the type of guy who will try everything at least once!

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Hot Runr Guy

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Jon,
Sent this link to a friend last night, when I noticed the pics were gone, then found this response. Any chance of re-posting the pictures, or cut & pasting a new thread?
HRG


BrianKAdministrator

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I think it's about time this thread was updated to 2010 standards...Jon? When will you have a video up?

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Hot Runr Guy

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I think it's about time this thread was updated to 2010 standards...Jon? When will you have a video up?




I did find this video last night. Maybe Jon is really Jose???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-uzQi7IgwU

HRG


deertracker

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Could have been a stuck or sticky thermostat. If it got stuck closed, no water would come out the pee hole.

PS. This post is almost 5 years old!!! Wow time flies. I had all of the pics in the original post loaded up on webserver from my prior ISP. They finally switched that accout off. I may need to re-do this as an article or video or both.

-J.




If you want to do a video, I have a 115 Johnson that could be the test subject.
DT

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"But now I will send for many fishermen," declares the Lord, "and they will catch them. After that I will send for many hunters, and they will hunt them down on every mountain and hill and from the crevices of the rocks.
Jeremiah 16:16


Daryl-MN

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Jon,

This looks like a great article. I a first time poster here and was wondering why I can't see the photo's. Thanks
Daryl


Jon Jordan

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Jon,

This looks like a great article. I a first time poster here and was wondering why I can't see the photo's. Thanks
Daryl




Welcome to IDO.

This post was added on 4/1/2005. At that time I had the photos linked to my personal web server. That account was closed and the photos and link were deleted.

I'm working on a fix for this.

-J.


Jon Jordan

Re: Water Pump & Impeller Replacement.


I guess this was not as big of a PITA as I thought. Pics are fixed. Enjoy >

-J.


Daryl-MN

Re: Water Pump & Impeller Replacement.


Thanks Jon!

old76er

Re: Water Pump & Impeller Replacement.


Great job on the step by step. If there is one thing I have learned from doing this year after year it is ALWAYS USE FACTORY REBUILD KITS not the aftermarket ones.
I have to do this on my merc 150 this weekend

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MIDWEST BASS ANGLERS BLACK BASS FISHERMAN


EyesNDucks

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I keep going back and reading this post and thinking I should be able to tackle my 25 hp lower unit. Thanks for the links and the info. I have a 2000 Johnson 25hp on my duck boat and still has the original water pump and impeller - still works but I keep thinking I need to do some maintenance. I may even try to tackle the seals in the prop shaft

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Dave

Navigator 175T & Yamaha F75


rmartin

Re: Water Pump & Impeller Replacement.


Here is a video for a 90 HP Etec:
Etec


Jon Jordan

Re: Water Pump & Impeller Replacement.


I was asked to bump this to the top of the board. Rememeber this is an old post. Enjoy!

-J.


fireline

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Jon what time was my appointment ?

Edited by fireline (10/02/11 05:15 PM)


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